Return of Reckoning

i dnt have any problems with dawf zerkers, they seem fine to me. and i play destro.

mfw when everyone is saying that SL is fine

so we need 2x dok to balance 1 order classes in every of our party wonderfull!!

"bury dots" as no aoe dots, aoe snare, other kind of aoe debuff MULTIPLTE shatter limbs not exist.

Shatter limbs is fine in sc untill you dont find 4x slayer which mean 4x shatter limbs + dots to cleanse which make the up 100% fo the time, throw em on healer and you cant cleanse before 10 sec CD then just die BADLY.
Which is exatly the 99% of what happened in 1.4+

In wb is the same principle, you just see few SL and few slayer cuz they cannot get togheter Heal debuff + shatter limbs + rampage + iD..... wait until then and you will see order wb pass onto anything.

This logic make me sick: fest arrow, rampage, shatter limbs and ID were the most asked nerf on order side. Due to obvious reason. Would all of this BE SINGLE TARGET no one would break the ball about but it's all **** aoe and undefitable so sy if someone ask for a nerf, or you want also all bind to one button ?

Just remove Bad Gas from SHs and give it to Choppas.

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Penril wrote:Just remove Bad Gas from SHs and give it to Choppas.

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That actually would make some sense since then WPs will be able to cleanse it. Though I dunno if the devs are brave enough to do that. Remember the **** storm that was caused with fester arrow being reduced at the most by 20%?

Penril wrote:Just remove Bad Gas from SHs and give it to Choppas.

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Why would they do that if almost everyone is saying that SL is fine.

rmpl wrote:

Penril wrote:Just remove Bad Gas from SHs and give it to Choppas.

/thread

Why would they do that if almost everyone is saying that SL is fine.

But Bad Gas is OP yo cuz WPs can't cleanse it. If anything, nerf Bad Gas.

Tesq wrote:so we need 2x dok to balance 1 order classes in every of our party wonderfull!!

You should run 2 DoKs or at least 1 DoK regardless.

"bury dots" as no aoe dots, aoe snare, other kind of aoe debuff MULTIPLTE shatter limbs not exist.

Moral 2 is an option if you really need it.

Shatter limbs is fine in sc untill you dont find 4x slayer which mean 4x shatter limbs + dots to cleanse which make the up 100% fo the time, throw em on healer and you cant cleanse before 10 sec CD then just die BADLY.
Which is exatly the 99% of what happened in 1.4+

Again, Moral 2 and Groupcleanse. You don't need to fully remove it, but it doesn't have 100% uptime

All that being said, it might very well be too strong for Warband vs. Warband, I have not enough experience in that area

magter3001 wrote: That actually would make some sense since then WPs will be able to cleanse it. Though I dunno if the devs are brave enough to do that. Remember the **** storm that was caused with fester arrow being reduced at the most by 20%?

Everyone who complied about the changes was ridiculed by pretty much everyone else in the thread

madbads are irrelevant to balance discussions

rmpl wrote:

Penril wrote:Just remove Bad Gas from SHs and give it to Choppas.

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Why would they do that if almost everyone is saying that SL is fine.

Because choppa/slayer are already pretty strongly mirrored, aligning their playstyles further would be the wrong way.