Return of Reckoning

footpatrol2 wrote:Archmage Vaul spec--- golden aura tactic Reads : Shield of Saphery will now grant immunity to stun and knockdown effects while active.

Immunity for your pet for fetch... if you want.
Or immunity for clutch situations also on anyone.

Spoiler:

Those set ups I wrote about have more things going on in them then what I actually wrote down. I only highlighted the flashy stuff.

Or dismiss/make fun of this also.

Get an AM. Get him to spec all the way into a broken tree. Use a tactic slot to make fetch more consistent. I know AMs are pretty broken but do we have to be pet sitters. Also SoS lasts 1 gcd in t4. Just break the absorb then cc.

footpatrol2 wrote:Archmage Vaul spec--- golden aura tactic Reads : Shield of Saphery will now grant immunity to stun and knockdown effects while active.

Immunity for your pet for fetch... if you want.
Or immunity for clutch situations also on anyone.

Spoiler:

Those set ups I wrote about have more things going on in them then what I actually wrote down. I only highlighted the flashy stuff.

Or dismiss/make fun of this also.

What kind of self-respecting AM would spec for a tactic slot that turns them into a glorified cat sitter?

The point is that marauder can do all this by himself, whereas a WL has to get wacky group compositions or coordination over ventrilo to overcome the inadequacies of a broken class mechanic. That's not fair, and needs to be changed before any nerfs are to even be discussed.

How about we just remove pulls from the game and be done with it?

Thier a stupid game mechanic and both sides managed well enough without them before

most of the problem isnt pounce itself.
we have video's where as the WL jumps to a healer or Rdps or any target, before we even turned like 1 milisecond later (was alr waiting for pounce to turn) 2 of em are alr dead.
basiscly while pouncing he 1 shots ya then jumps back. then u have BW Rkd and also SW Rkd wich basicly in 1 coordinated strike knocks ya entire team out.
put pounce on cooldown of 5-7 sec still very mobile enough for every situation (i dont see an choppa or mara pounce every sec) lower his burst a small bit it does more then enough shud have time to react instead of 1 shotting people.
remove that the WL needs the pet to have cc.

( TenTonhammer while ur at it remove magnet/ rift owh and do AOE damage aswell.

areanda wrote:most of the problem isnt pounce itself.
we have video's where as the WL jumps to a healer or Rdps or any target, before we even turned like 1 milisecond later (was alr waiting for pounce to turn) 2 of em are alr dead.
basiscly while pouncing he 1 shots ya then jumps back. then u have BW Rkd and also SW Rkd wich basicly in 1 coordinated strike knocks ya entire team out.
put pounce on cooldown of 5-7 sec still very mobile enough for every situation (i dont see an choppa or mara pounce every sec) lower his burst a small bit it does more then enough shud have time to react instead of 1 shotting people.
remove that the WL needs the pet to have cc.

( TenTonhammer while ur at it remove magnet/ rift owh and do AOE damage aswell.

You need to use detaunt or your WASD keys. Don't facetank, if you are moving at all a WL who has pounced cannot catch you without also using charge.

Also, you're dramatically overstating the amount of burst a WL can do. It literally can kill nothing from full to dead in one millisecond. WLs are not capable of 1 shotting targets. If you see a target die the second a WL has landed upon them, they were probably already dotted by a RDPS.

liandel i will send ya the video later today in this thread he did use detaunt and also has 3 merc gears. also the frontal cone we know of. only stating the fact here nothing else and overdramatic no for my part they stay how they are but most deff this community doesnt like how it is cause every week there is a new post about it.

TenTonHammer wrote:How about we just remove pulls from the game and be done with it?

Thier a stupid game mechanic and both sides managed well enough without them before

Pounce, pulls, rkds, run away. Remove em all and make that op **** slayer has st and its game on

areanda wrote:liandel i will send ya the video later today in this thread he did use detaunt and also has 3 merc gears. also the frontal cone we know of. only stating the fact here nothing else and overdramatic no for my part they stay how they are but most deff this community doesnt like how it is cause every week there is a new post about it.

Alright, I'll believe it when I see it. Does he have the combat log screenshotted? Nothing on any of the WL's trees delves high enough to one-shot anyone.

The reason there's a post every week is because destro is mad that an order class has one unique thing and they want to see it gutted, even though they are underinformed about the other shortcomings of the class.

Liandel wrote:
The reason there's a post every week is because destro is mad that an order class has one unique thing and they want to see it gutted, even though they are underinformed about the other shortcomings of the class.

Thats quite an ignorant pov.

Not really Lindel and try stay on topic please. Pounce should have a CD like everything else that is all.

Lets us not derail that with Maras have TE, fetch is broken, pet is broken, WLs have AP issues* or endless situational discussions.

1. "Similar abilities" that grant move speed buffs or immunities to CC in any form "all" have 30s CD or more (all = 9/10).

2. Back on WAR it was granted a 0 CD as it misfired a lot but that is fixed now

* Having a CD on pounce could even help the AP-issues because you get "ability downtime" like most other MDPS