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Re: Scenarios- pre mades being douchebags

Post#211 » Thu Jan 14, 2016 5:40 pm

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The issue is - when the game mandates that you can not be even remotely competitive unless you have five other friends online at the same time playing a specific dedicated archetype, it is a flawed game. As an mdps, queing an sc without a guard and healer is beyond laughable currently.
I queued solo late night with my Choppa and have to disagree. Although I lost every game I went against a premade or better players in general, I still was top dps and kills for my team (usually the only one to get any). Player skill and gear makes a difference, as well as class of course, but to say that you won't be remotely competitive is wrong.

Just as a 3 man can stand against a 6 man, (with pug support) so can pugs stand against them with good player support. When you are lucky enough to get enough pugs together that know their ****, even while solo queuing, you can seriously contend with a premade. ;)
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Re: Scenarios- pre mades being douchebags

Post#212 » Thu Jan 14, 2016 5:52 pm

How about pre mades only que for certain SC's and pugs for others. This way as a community we can kind of control it?

When pugs que they just have to unque for like 1 SC and the premades just que for 1 SC. What SC would that be idk make a poll. This way the premades who want to que vs other premades will hopefully have a higher percent of getting them

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Re: Scenarios- pre mades being douchebags

Post#213 » Thu Jan 14, 2016 5:55 pm

magter3001 wrote:
mursie wrote: I queued solo late night with my Choppa and have to disagree. Although I lost every game I went against a premade or better players in general, I still was top dps and kills for my team (usually the only one to get any). Player skill and gear makes a difference, as well as class of course, but to say that you won't be remotely competitive is wrong.
Building a game around the exception to the rule will not be as beneficial as building to the rule. Your exceptional abilities aside, the majority of solo que'rs will not fare very well. I know, because I've seen 22 page threads on the forums about it. ;)

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Re: Scenarios- pre mades being douchebags

Post#214 » Thu Jan 14, 2016 6:04 pm

magter3001 wrote:I queued solo late night with my Choppa and have to disagree. Although I lost every game I went against a premade or better players in general, I still was top dps and kills for my team (usually the only one to get any). Player skill and gear makes a difference, as well as class of course, but to say that you won't be remotely competitive is wrong.

Just as a 3 man can stand against a 6 man, (with pug support) so can pugs stand against them with good player support. When you are lucky enough to get enough pugs together that know their ****, even while solo queuing, you can seriously contend with a premade. ;)
I have seen examples of grand dellusion but this takes the **** cake.

"Guys, i entered several scs yesterday were we had no healers, most people were barely enough to enter the bracket, tanks were 2h and when we lost the first fight half of them went afk and the other half went to try to sneak cap which leaved me to fight all of them alone on my whatever.

I was top damage and killed one guy who was afk at lighthouse when his team went back to cap rax, which made me top KB also, this pretty much assures me that not only skill is the determining factor but that if somehow the entire enemy dced, we would have also won the sc.

I am also able to say this because i surgically removed two of my ribs so i now have enough flexibility to bend over and eat the **** i spawn."

Seriously, what the hell.

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Re: Scenarios- pre mades being douchebags

Post#215 » Thu Jan 14, 2016 6:06 pm

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magter3001 wrote:I queued solo late night with my Choppa and have to disagree. Although I lost every game I went against a premade or better players in general, I still was top dps and kills for my team (usually the only one to get any). Player skill and gear makes a difference, as well as class of course, but to say that you won't be remotely competitive is wrong.

Just as a 3 man can stand against a 6 man, (with pug support) so can pugs stand against them with good player support. When you are lucky enough to get enough pugs together that know their ****, even while solo queuing, you can seriously contend with a premade. ;)
I have seen examples of grand dellusion but this takes the **** cake.

"Guys, i entered several scs yesterday were we had no healers, most people were barely enough to enter the bracket, tanks were 2h and when we lost the first fight half of them went afk and the other half went to try to sneak cap which leaved me to fight all of them alone on my whatever.

I was top damage and killed one guy who was afk at lighthouse when his team went back to cap rax, which made me top KB also, this pretty much assures me that not only skill is the determining factor but that if somehow the entire enemy dced, we would have also won the sc.

I am also able to say this because i surgically removed two of my ribs so i now have enough flexibility to bend over and eat the **** i spawn."

Seriously, what the hell.
How... did you get that from my post? :lol:
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Re: Scenarios- pre mades being douchebags

Post#216 » Thu Jan 14, 2016 6:21 pm

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peterthepan3 wrote:Dude.. why is it so hard to ask guildies/in advice for a group? In t1-t2 sure, but t3 people should get into habit of grouping. Its THE most vital ingredient to War's PvP.
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Re: Scenarios- pre mades being douchebags

Post#217 » Thu Jan 14, 2016 6:32 pm

Well, that escalated quickly.

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Re: Scenarios- pre mades being douchebags

Post#218 » Thu Jan 14, 2016 6:38 pm

magter3001 wrote:How... did you get that from my post? :lol:
The part where you playing some scs and losing but being top dps convinced you that saying solo players will not be remotely competitive is wrong.

You basically told people that you are so good that if you get guard and healers, you get top damage and more kbs than anyone else while playing solo.

Somehow you manage to both humble brag and spew a ridiculous amount of idiocy on the same exact post, hell, i can even distill it further for you:
magter3001 wrote:Guys, its hard but if you are as good as i am and you are lucky to get some idiot to guard you and some other idiot to heal you, you can get top damage and kbs in a sc, you will still lose but you can then delude yourself into thiking you made a difference
That was basically your post. It reminds me of alll those melee healers who won that 1vs2 that day and cant shut up about it and will try to shut down any balance tweaks to grace based on that one time they thought they were hella good.

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Re: Scenarios- pre mades being douchebags

Post#219 » Thu Jan 14, 2016 6:56 pm

magter3001 wrote: Player skill and gear makes a difference, as well as class of course, but to say that you won't be remotely competitive is wrong.
My idea was to say that not everyone who joins a scenario is going to contribute as well as others. NA late night isn't the strongest group around, for either order or destruction so it's not that hard to outplay them. But if you get good players into the scenario, you do stand a chance. Sorry Blood if you didn't understand that. ;)

EDIT: I also didn't write that, whatever you quoted. :/
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Re: Scenarios- pre mades being douchebags

Post#220 » Thu Jan 14, 2016 7:18 pm

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