Re: Patch Notes 09/03/2022
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 11:04 pm
let's do some numbers on new genesis vs old, to compare I'm using 1 G crest = 16 W crests, and 1 bag on new = 32 WC and old 1 bag = 8 vanqs, for old vanq set I'll assume avg vanq spent is 300 (of 901 with 601 from AH/gold bags)..
we have 3 scenarios..
1. somebody who just wants 2 genesis pieces (All dps, RP/ZL) and would use SC and/or bloodlord weapon:
This would cost you 20x16 = 320 WC from 10 bags, which is 19% of new vanq set up from 5% on old (2x8/300), arguably still a very good price for 2 BIS items.
However 10 bags from the old system would have an ~80% chance to give you two specific pieces, meaning for about 20% of players this new system is better, assuming that they only value getting 2 BIS pieces and the content of the other 8 bags were worth nothing to them.
2. Somebody who wants all Subjugator weapons and 4 genesis jewelries (tanks, healers)
With new system that's (40+40+10*4)=120 GC x 16 = 1960 WC from 60 bags or 114% the cost of a full vanq set!!
Pre-patch this could have been done with 6-7 bags containing 48-56 vanqs costings 16-19% of vanq set (note this is % of 300, it would be ~6% against the full 901 vanq cost).
And by the time you'd actually go through 60 bags chances of you not getting exactly what you want is absolutely miniscule.
3. somebody who wants all weapons with 9 jewelries (tanks, completionists)
(40+40+10*9)=170 GC * 16 = 2720 WC from 85 bags, 161% of full vanq set.....
Before 96 vanqs 32% of vanq cost, from 12 bags.
So... for everybody except a subset of the 20% of scenario 1, this is now a 5-10x worse deal (on avg), and that's just comparing vanq, new system actually directly costs you up to 20-30% of a sov set vs the old 0-1% since vanq medals had little value after vanq unlock.
we have 3 scenarios..
1. somebody who just wants 2 genesis pieces (All dps, RP/ZL) and would use SC and/or bloodlord weapon:
This would cost you 20x16 = 320 WC from 10 bags, which is 19% of new vanq set up from 5% on old (2x8/300), arguably still a very good price for 2 BIS items.
However 10 bags from the old system would have an ~80% chance to give you two specific pieces, meaning for about 20% of players this new system is better, assuming that they only value getting 2 BIS pieces and the content of the other 8 bags were worth nothing to them.
2. Somebody who wants all Subjugator weapons and 4 genesis jewelries (tanks, healers)
With new system that's (40+40+10*4)=120 GC x 16 = 1960 WC from 60 bags or 114% the cost of a full vanq set!!
Pre-patch this could have been done with 6-7 bags containing 48-56 vanqs costings 16-19% of vanq set (note this is % of 300, it would be ~6% against the full 901 vanq cost).
And by the time you'd actually go through 60 bags chances of you not getting exactly what you want is absolutely miniscule.
3. somebody who wants all weapons with 9 jewelries (tanks, completionists)
(40+40+10*9)=170 GC * 16 = 2720 WC from 85 bags, 161% of full vanq set.....
Before 96 vanqs 32% of vanq cost, from 12 bags.
So... for everybody except a subset of the 20% of scenario 1, this is now a 5-10x worse deal (on avg), and that's just comparing vanq, new system actually directly costs you up to 20-30% of a sov set vs the old 0-1% since vanq medals had little value after vanq unlock.