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Re: XP and RP Off Option
Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 4:54 am
by Renork
zabis wrote:I already know that I am good, I only gave one reason of why some people want a lower tier twink
There are multiple reasons. get good.
Re: XP and RP Off Option
Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 4:54 am
by zabis
Right, and I named one of them
Re: XP and RP Off Option
Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 4:55 am
by Renork
zabis wrote:Right, and I named one of them
No
Re: XP and RP Off Option
Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 4:55 am
by zabis
If you think I am wrong, then you are ignorant
Re: XP and RP Off Option
Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 4:56 am
by Renork
zabis wrote:If you think I am wrong, then you are ignorant
Do you like to grief lowbies?
Re: XP and RP Off Option
Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 4:57 am
by zabis
I did at times on live
Re: XP and RP Off Option
Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 4:58 am
by Renork
zabis wrote:I did at times on live
Shame on you.
Edit: Also, it sounds like the story of a villain turned into a hero.
Re: XP and RP Off Option
Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 5:09 am
by bwdaWAR
The big gear gap in the top tier can't be avoided (unless of course you plan to remove gear entirely). In the lower tiers, it can. In the lower tiers, characters are transitionary only, and can't accumulate a lot of gear, neither does it have much of a point to send down very good items from higher rank characters since they can only use it for a (relatively) short while. And even if someone does it anyways, they won't be there too long - in fact, the more successful they are in RvR, the faster they earn XP and the shorter their time in that tier. It won't eliminate twinking completely of course, but it makes a very big difference.
Also, as others have pointed out, new players are still learning how to play the game, RvR especially, in the lower tiers. That makes twinks there actually worse than in T4, or even T3.
Also, there is a difference between lower tier twinks who usually are given gear from higher rank characters, and end-game "twinks" who earn it themselves under the terms set in the tier they're in (meaning it takes some actual effort).
I can think of other reasons to want an XP off feature, but to be able to twink characters in a PvP-focused game is the worst possible one. To have a completely unfair fight, where the enemy has no chance, and not because of grouping, player skill or anything like that, just gear, from higher levels?
Re: XP and RP Off Option
Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 5:10 am
by RyanMakara
Renork wrote:Actually Miss. Diva, I suggested /xp off should work for level 9 and 19 respectively in response to his post. At 9 you can't wear decayed weapons, renown gear (the good one anyways), medallion weapons, bloody and blood-soaked gear, etc... Also, you don't have access to your tactic slot (empire/chaos absorb shield is pretty decent) and you can't use level 10 pots. So basically, a "new" level 11 player will still have a chance against a level "9" twink in gale gear.
Oh ****, you're capable of actually explaining your
own suggestion! *claps*
Too bad that's more of a tangent than anything when we were arguing over whether or not OP was making any actual suggestions here. As I said, OP only asked a question in the suggestion part of the forums; not making any
actual suggestion as to why that which he had questioned should be implemented.
Renork wrote:
See how not so toxic that was? It's a lot better than your idiotic response

back to painting your nails now.
I knew you had it in you, then you had to resort back to attacking >me<. Weaksauce, bro, weaksauce. I cry now.
Renork wrote:
Edit: Oh, and I have no problem with the ego queens who think they are god's gift to gaming. I was merely pointing out how hypocritical they sound.
And then you did something hypocritical to justify avoiding the point I was making. Ergo, that you're no hair better than the people you 'criticise' for all the 'right reasons'. Seeking self-justification in a thread by, as I said, poisoning the well on people who you have a negative opinion on, does not invalidate their disagreement on the matter. Your actual argument on the matter is something they should reply to and try to refute (good luck to them), but that doesn't mean you can fire off ad hominems at will for self-amusement on a forum thread in an attempt to bait them. You may be made out to be a forum troll and nobody will take you seriously anymore!
Literally walking on a razor's edge by being an edgy forum troll on one side, and an actual rational person on the other who may be able to show an actual proper counter-argument to an idea that's met with stiff opposition (be it by 6 man people you hate or not.) Really not sure whether I should give you the benefit of the doubt or stop feeding you here.
Re: XP and RP Off Option
Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 5:30 am
by Sulorie
zabis wrote:
I agree, I think it would also discourage new players who just start to pvp. Tier 1 and tier 2 should be where you are learning the basics of PvP/RvR, not getting steamtrolled by twinks.
Face it, people still lack the basics in t3 and even in t4, when we get it. This is hardly a reason to be against no-xp.