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Re: Warhammer vs All

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 7:18 pm
by Gorwe
It's simple: all they had to was make a choice. A choice between PvE and PvP. They stubbornly held onto the premise that you can have both in the same game to the same effect. Reality: you can't. You can have BGs and the like as an added mode when the going gets rough/boring. And so it is in the most MMOs:

WoW: PvE + BGs
LoTR:O pure PvE
SWTOR: PvE + WZs
Rift: PvE + BGs(they wanted sth like RvR but gave up on that idea-a smart move if I ever saw one)
EQ: PvE
AC: PvE

EvE: PvP + minor PvE
Darkfall: PvP + minor PvE
AoC: balanced PvE/PvP ratio, but still a slight PvP lead(yet another fail game-do notice the PvP/PvE ratio!)
WAR: PvE = PvP(GG!)
DAoC: PvP + minor PvE

You must make a choice. Where's the problem at? lol

EVERYONE knows that I am a fan of Warhammer PvE games(anything really). My criticism of Warhammer = PvP is equally vocal. Look, WARcraft/Star WARS/CONAN/LoTR and the like all have at least healthy PvE(AoC tried a no-no thing tho) even in spite of their IP. IP that is about war in one way or another. So, why would Warhammer be any more or less of a PvE game just because it's named WARhammer? If I ever heard a weak straw man argument...

Re: Warhammer vs All

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 7:28 pm
by Kaitanaroyr
Gorwe wrote:It's simple: all they had to was make a choice. A choice between PvE and PvP. They stubbornly held onto the premise that you can have both in the same game to the same effect. Reality: you can't. You can have BGs and the like as an added mode when the going gets rough/boring. And so it is in the most MMOs:

WoW: PvE + BGs
LoTR:O pure PvE
SWTOR: PvE + WZs
Rift: PvE + BGs(they wanted sth like RvR but gave up on that idea-a smart move if I ever saw one)
EQ: PvE
AC: PvE

EvE: PvP + minor PvE
Darkfall: PvP + minor PvE
AoC: balanced PvE/PvP ratio, but still a slight PvP lead(yet another fail game-do notice the PvP/PvE ratio!)
WAR: PvE = PvP(GG!)
DAoC: PvP + minor PvE

You must make a choice. Where's the problem at? lol

EVERYONE knows that I am a fan of Warhammer PvE games(anything really). My criticism of Warhammer = PvP is equally vocal. Look, WARcraft/Star WARS/CONAN/LoTR and the like all have at least healthy PvE(AoC tried a no-no thing tho) even in spite of their IP. IP that is about war in one way or another. So, why would Warhammer be any more or less of a PvE game just because it's named WARhammer? If I ever heard a weak straw man argument...
Swg had the best of both pve and pvp....

Re: Warhammer vs All

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 9:31 pm
by Grolar
Bad decisions made by so many companies are killing things. The gaming industry will crash if EA, Bioware, Sony, EtC.. don't stop spitting out terrible games. People need to stop lowering their standards and buying $60 1 dimensional pieces of ****.

Education: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZxXEidtxHk

Why the industry is dying- http://www.cracked.com/article_20727_5- ... crash.html

Re: Warhammer vs All

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 9:48 pm
by Elven
Yeah, while I agree that people need to stop giving into these obscene prices and **** quality games. To put it blunt... The average gamer is a **** retard and doesn't know quality **** from a **** pile of horse ****.

I personally gonna sit back and let these idiots make the same mistake over and over. Then snatch the games on the cheap via steam. That is what a smart person would do.

You wanna know the truth? There wouldn't be this **** stupidly expensive gaming market, if it wasn't for console gamers. Consoles are **** and the people who primarily own them are idiots. They sacrifice quality and true gaming perfection for some pathetic portable console? Meh!!

Before all you haters cry at me. I got a PS3 (I barely use coz why would I??). I used to game on console (PS1/2) but now I', a PC gamer. Sure PC gaming has its flaws. Like 90% of games don't work on the first click. If you're a power users of computers, that's no problem.

So I still stand by what I say.