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Re: elighten me: why do we need so many grinds?

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 11:18 am
by Coryphaus
i have a friend on ordo wh is a rr40 wh

it lets him spec van horstons speculum at 40, and now he can pretty much duel and beat any we because of it, before 40 it could go either way

rr40 makes a difference due to the additional ability pt and rr mastery

Re: elighten me: why do we need so many grinds?

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 11:22 am
by Marley
thullonse wrote: im playing BW and rr40 gives me an unfair advantage against everyone who isnt. i can either chose to spec a heal debuff and 100% kill a target every 30seconds when its ready or chose the 2nd tactic which gives my burst 20% more damage(ignition). its unfair against people who arent rr40 and cant use similar stuff to their advantage
In that case it would be unfair advantage to have better gear than someone else. It would be unfair to have different Rank than someone else. It would be unfair to be another class than someone else. See what I'm getting at ?

In a game with progression people are often att different gear levels and skill levels. So what your are looking for mate does not seem like less grind in that case you just want "fair" gameplay. Now i respect that but that is not gonna happen on this server soon, or might never.

Re: elighten me: why do we need so many grinds?

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 11:26 am
by thullonse
Marley wrote:In that case it would be unfair advantage to have better gear than someone else. It would be unfair to have different Rank than someone else. It would be unfair to be another class than someone else. See what I'm getting at ?

In a game with progression people are often att different gear levels and skill levels. So what your are looking for mate does not seem like less grind in that case you just want "fair" gameplay. Now i respect that but that is not gonna happen on this server soon, or might never.
the problem isnt that there is disparity. the problem in my opinion is the time you have to invest into getting to such a high status. all what these long grinds are promoting is exploiting, nothing more. you have seen this with the 80/20 population. you have seen this with lvl1 toons in the t2 lakes and you can currently see it with the exploitation of a certain bug that lets you generate infinite amount of gold / crafting mats for talis

just an example: the t1 sc weapon costs 20 emblems, the t2 costs 100 emblems thats 500% more emblems you need for a weapon. in t1 you get 2 emblems for a win, in t2 you also get 2 emblems for a win. how is this a good design? even t2->t3 weapon is 100 emblems vs 210. for a level 24 weapon.

Re: elighten me: why do we need so many grinds?

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 11:28 am
by Jaycub
Games that don't have grind have to survive on gameplay alone to keep people interested.

As much as it hurts to say WAR in it's current state wouldn't last long if there was no grind in comparison to the setup we have now.

Re: elighten me: why do we need so many grinds?

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 11:31 am
by Nanji
thullonse wrote: im playing BW and rr40 gives me an unfair advantage against everyone who isnt. i can either chose to spec a heal debuff and 100% kill a target every 30seconds when its ready or chose the 2nd tactic which gives my burst 20% more damage(ignition). its unfair against people who arent rr40 and cant use similar stuff to their advantage
It was the name I asked for, neither your lifestory nor your dreams. ;)

Re: elighten me: why do we need so many grinds?

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 11:34 am
by Soulcheg
thullonse wrote: im playing BW and rr40 gives me an unfair advantage against everyone who isnt. i can either chose to spec a heal debuff and 100% kill a target every 30seconds when its ready or chose the 2nd tactic which gives my burst 20% more damage(ignition).
No you cant. If you choose to spec second tactic - so you must drop or intellect one, or boiling blood one. Either way, you lose your burst damage. And with heal debuff - almost every healer now using all type of cleansing spells properly, so you can kill target in 30 sec only if it's unguarded and w/o heal. So it's more l2p issue, i think.

Re: elighten me: why do we need so many grinds?

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 11:37 am
by thullonse
Soulcheg wrote:
thullonse wrote: im playing BW and rr40 gives me an unfair advantage against everyone who isnt. i can either chose to spec a heal debuff and 100% kill a target every 30seconds when its ready or chose the 2nd tactic which gives my burst 20% more damage(ignition).
No you cant. If you choose to spec second tactic - so you must drop or intellect one, or boiling blood one. Either way, you lose your burst damage. And with heal debuff - almost every healer now using all type of cleansing spells properly, so you can kill target in 30 sec only if it's unguarded and w/o heal. So it's more l2p issue, i think.
hard to read heh?

Re: elighten me: why do we need so many grinds?

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 11:41 am
by Druin
So you don't want to "grind" Scs for Emblems. What else is there to do ?

Re: elighten me: why do we need so many grinds?

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 11:45 am
by Kazekiri
He just asks for a bit more exp rewards, in quests, kills, etc.
Just look at rats spot order and figure out how grind is massive atm, sometimes u can't even find a rat when 3 parties farming there...
And you shouldnt look for rat anyway, it's terrible and not funny, just increase the exp rate so 12-22 can be less of a nightmare, that's the suggestion here...

Re: elighten me: why do we need so many grinds?

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 11:46 am
by Tiggo
i like progression. i hated gw2 aproach to give all to anyone. i like to progress my char and my equipment... im prbly. to old for modern give you all for free games ^^