Return of Reckoning

what that mean free imunities? i chase after some ranged class and with this melle bug where u cant hit target its nightmare . cant devs increae mele abilities to 10 feet than not crapy 5

The easiest way to buff WL is just to give them a stacking dmg buff for every time they complain about being underpowered, it's basically their class mechanic at this point anyways.

For example, say Pounce had a 2s root that came with it, and a WL is chasing a squig herder.
>pounce on SH
>WL gets punted away, pounces (but the target cannot be rooted, punted back, etc., because of the immunity given by pounce) and SH self punts
>WL gets kited to hell

ok thx twyx your explaining is very good

+1

5 sec knock down seems legit. add it

No root on pounce. Pounce was/is fine, and everyone will forget about it once 40 is introduced.

Twyxx wrote:For example, say Pounce had a 2s root that came with it, and a WL is chasing a squig herder.
>pounce on SH
>WL gets punted away, pounces (but the target cannot be rooted, punted back, etc., because of the immunity given by pounce) and SH self punts
>WL gets kited to hell

well maybe it will teach wls to stop abusing pounce and further more this would stop making tank kbs completely useless vs wls

Yeah..... no.
It would be like a BO that keeps spamming aoe punt in Tor Anroc and everyone gets mad at them. No need for a root on pounce.

Coryphaus wrote:

Twyxx wrote:Lmfao.

dont you have some dbs to steal with you obnoxious crit chance?

seriouly though looking at my combat log

>pounce crit
>force oppertunity crit
>cordinated strike crit
>aa
>aa crit


i have to keep telling my self "wl is up" "wl is up"

and choppas arnt excalty ment to stack initiative

Ok, lets try elaborate with this information.

Lets see how many crit chance WL can achieve even in T2.

Trained to threaten 5% crit chance
Scenario 2H weapon 2% crit chance
Influence gloves 1% crit chance
Influence boots(or helm) 2% crit chance

Its about 10% crit chance

plus

Kotbs buff from passive 10% crit for whole party when Kotbs block
2H IB buff Ancestors furry 10% crit chance

With this melee setup WL can achieve 30% critical chance in total plus the base enemy player chance to be crit which warry from 10% to 20%.

Depends on party setup and enemy player chance to get crit WLs crit chance varry between 10%-50% critical chance.

Vdova wrote:

Coryphaus wrote:

Twyxx wrote:Lmfao.

dont you have some dbs to steal with you obnoxious crit chance?

seriouly though looking at my combat log

>pounce crit
>force oppertunity crit
>cordinated strike crit
>aa
>aa crit


i have to keep telling my self "wl is up" "wl is up"

and choppas arnt excalty ment to stack initiative

Ok, lets try elaborate with this information.

Lets see how many crit chance WL can achieve even in T2.

Trained to threaten 5% crit chance
Scenario 2H weapon 2% crit chance
Influence gloves 1% crit chance
Influence boots(or helm) 2% crit chance

Its about 10% crit chance

plus

Kotbs buff from passive 10% crit for whole party when Kotbs buff
2H IB buff Ancestors furry 10% crit chance

With this melee setup WL can achieve 30% critical chance in total plus the base enemy player chance to be crit which warry from 10% to 20%.

Depends on party setup and player chance to be crit WLs crit chance varry between 10-50% critical chance.

To be fair a good sized initiative debuff gives almost the same amount of crit. I love squigs that assist btw

Back on topic leave the wl alone no need to make changes to this class. As it levels its power drops off a fair bit if we where in t4 right now this would be another nerf ID thread and white lion wouldn't get a look in when it comes to des QQ