Return of Reckoning

Coryphaus wrote:

Azarael wrote:WL must be a pretty good class to be able to jump up onto a keep wall and instantly kill everything that's up there.

az come on, we've all seen it happen, no one here can feign ignorance of it

the wl can jump onto the keep wall, use its massive front load burst and tear through a clothie then just jump back out and get healed them come back and rinse and repeat


theirs no counter to this on destro nor similar cheese tactic that destro cn pull

It's not so much that there is no counter - it's that Destro have nothing that can do the same.

It's not only the lower wall, either. I've been on the roof and tried to defend the keep by AOEing the outer ramp/battlements while Order are trying to pull the Lord outside. Nope, two or three WLs pouncing up to the roof to tear the clothies a new one (with no tanks to defend them on the roof, because why would the tanks be on the roof and not in the lord room).

I also realise that no Destro class has "Pounce" so it's not going to get "balanced", so it is what it is.

tomato wrote:CC him, kill him.
Pretty easy counter.

Or maybe just order bias, prolly that...

cc him with what? knockbacks? those dont work as wls can just pounce mid air and come right back so all you did was waste a 20s cd ability

kd? bg kd requires block

blorc kd requires 3rd plan ant that leaves chosen only

and staggers are broken easily

Twyxx wrote:Tbh, maybe this is because I'm guarding mailbox too often, I've seen maybe like -3 people die from a WL pouncing onto the keep wall.

It sounds super terrifying on paper but in reality...

its terrifying in reality as well, ive seen this happen from both sides of the siege and been on the receiving end to, you know of wls burst, force opportunity leaves clothes naked and you tear through them so fast

@coryphaus
So the requierments for bg/bo kd make them impossible to use?
There's so much aoe flying around that bg will surely have his up, meanwhile it's not that hard keeping third stance for bo kd. (Unless you're retarded obv.)

I'm not at all surprised (with your gameknowledge) you miss the best cc for this situation, tank m1.
Freekill.

Gotta love how you have no clue about this game but still post in every balance/build related thread.

k

all the time tank has m1 up

dosnt need to protect door and ramps with tank wall

and while on the roof dosnt need to worry about **** like bw RoF

tomato wrote:@coryphaus
So the requierments for bg/bo kd make them impossible to use?
There's so much aoe flying around that bg will surely have his up, meanwhile it's not that hard keeping third stance for bo kd. (Unless you're retarded obv.)

I'm not at all surprised (with your gameknowledge) you miss the best cc for this situation, tank m1.
Freekill.

Gotta love how you have no clue about this game but still post in every balance/build related thread.

Good idea, lets put the tanks on the roof, instead of tank walling the ramps or lords room.

Coryphaus wrote:k

all the time tank has m1 up

Yes, it's super fast ready, and I think there are more destru tanks than white lions at a keep deff.
Problem is that ppl like you rather play the armordebuff+damage moral. Instead of learning you stay bad and whine.

@Abolition You need tanks in the lord room and on the ramps while the door is up? Good idea obviously, you got me there.
Do you even think what you write?
Wl pouncing up makes mostly sense when the keep door is still up.

tomato wrote:
@Abolition You need tanks in the lord room and on the ramps while the door is up? Good idea obviously, you got me there.
Do you even think what you write?
Wl pouncing up makes mostly sense when the keep door is still up.

You must have missed the part where I mentioned being on the roof when Order have already broken through the door and are on the level outside the Lords room.

Good job with your selective reading, though.
WL pouncing up there (to the roof) makes sense when the keep door is down.
I've attached the quote below for your convenience, since you obviously selectively read what people write.
I even bolded and underlined it. If I could make it a picture book for you, I would, but I can't.

Abolition wrote:
It's not so much that there is no counter - it's that Destro have nothing that can do the same.

It's not only the lower wall, either. I've been on the roof and tried to defend the keep by AOEing the outer ramp/battlements while Order are trying to pull the Lord outside. Nope, two or three WLs pouncing up to the roof to tear the clothies a new one (with no tanks to defend them on the roof, because why would the tanks be on the roof and not in the lord room).

I also realise that no Destro class has "Pounce" so it's not going to get "balanced", so it is what it is.

Stay classy.

Abolition wrote:

tomato wrote:
@Abolition You need tanks in the lord room and on the ramps while the door is up? Good idea obviously, you got me there.
Do you even think what you write?
Wl pouncing up makes mostly sense when the keep door is still up.

You must have missed the part where I mentioned being on the roof when Order have already broken through the door and are on the level outside the Lords room.

Good job with your selective reading, though.
WL pouncing up there (to the roof) makes sense when the keep door is down.
I've attached the quote below for your convenience.

Abolition wrote:
It's not so much that there is no counter - it's that Destro have nothing that can do the same.

It's not only the lower wall, either. I've been on the roof and tried to defend the keep by AOEing the outer ramp/battlements while Order are trying to pull the Lord outside. Nope, two or three WLs pouncing up to the roof to tear the clothies a new one (with no tanks to defend them on the roof, because why would the tanks be on the roof and not in the lord room).

I also realise that no Destro class has "Pounce" so it's not going to get "balanced", so it is what it is.

Stay classy.

yea let the tanks be usless in the lord room instead of standing next to their casters to protect them. you probably are that kind of a person who rolls a tank and complains that you dont do the same damage as a dps class

thullonse wrote: .....you probably are that kind of a person who rolls a tank and complains that you dont do the same damage as a dps class

Negative. I don't play tanks (playing from OCE means pretty high ping, unfortunately). Also I don't even see how that is relevant to the current discussion.

You obviously find reading hard, too, because you can see what I play in my signature. Nice try, though.

I don't get why you won't put two or three tanks up?
Unless you're keep defending with 3 ppl there are surely enough tanks to spare some.

Tanks are mostly there to protect there teammates, criple enemies. That's why they have guard and cc.
What are your tanks doing down there when order has pulled the lord out? Spamming aoe?

Instead of trying to find a solution, you're just whining.
It seems most players just want to have absolutely symmetrical gameplayon every class.

Order has x so destru want x aswell.
Destru has y, so order cries to remove y.
Never adept please, just cry.