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Re: WP/DOK regen soulstone
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2026 2:28 pm
by M0rw47h
crazyturkme wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2026 1:56 pm
M0rw47h wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2026 1:49 pm
...and does disrupt anyhow block damage from pouncing WL close to you to spin to win? No.
how does block will help you, i dont understand your point. whats the relation between shield and soul regen? u can still survive pouncing wl as shield DOK/WP. shield heals doesnt have any issue with regen since they can attack and get soul while blocking.
Right now, you don't use SHIELD, because you need to use TOME, to keep RF flowing. If you could have RF talisman, you could change your tome to shield, gain anti-snare/root, but cripple your ST healing (Divine Mend requires Tome) and now you could have extra defenses with block. You can even buff your block with Sigmar's Vision by swinging your hammer by 10% wtih 100% uptime.
How does block could help WP?
Well, in multiple ways, e.g.:
1) Reduce AoE pressure;
2) Trigger Exalted Defenses via both melee and ranged attacks.
^The most tanky healer would become even more tanky, what could go wrong.
crazyturkme wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2026 2:09 pm
how much defence wi,ll shield give you? 8 block? so all argument is for 8 block?. we are talking smt different. I am saying all other mirrors can gain main tools from tactics and egg while wp/dok doesnt.
You probably could easily get ~30% buffed.
Re: WP/DOK regen soulstone
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2026 2:44 pm
by kpihuss
I don't think it's a fair option.
No class has a Soulstone that generates its own mechanics points, so WPs/DoK shouldn't have one either.
Re: WP/DOK regen soulstone
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2026 3:29 pm
by crazyturkme
M0rw47h wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2026 2:28 pm
crazyturkme wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2026 1:56 pm
M0rw47h wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2026 1:49 pm
...and does disrupt anyhow block damage from pouncing WL close to you to spin to win? No.
how does block will help you, i dont understand your point. whats the relation between shield and soul regen? u can still survive pouncing wl as shield DOK/WP. shield heals doesnt have any issue with regen since they can attack and get soul while blocking.
Right now, you don't use SHIELD, because you need to use TOME, to keep RF flowing. If you could have RF talisman, you could change your tome to shield, gain anti-snare/root, but cripple your ST healing (Divine Mend requires Tome) and now you could have extra defenses with block. You can even buff your block with Sigmar's Vision by swinging your hammer by 10% wtih 100% uptime.
How does block could help WP?
Well, in multiple ways, e.g.:
1) Reduce AoE pressure;
2) Trigger Exalted Defenses via both melee and ranged attacks.
^The most tanky healer would become even more tanky, what could go wrong.
crazyturkme wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2026 2:09 pm
how much defence wi,ll shield give you? 8 block? so all argument is for 8 block?. we are talking smt different. I am saying all other mirrors can gain main tools from tactics and egg while wp/dok doesnt.
You probably could easily get ~30% buffed.
I agree with you but you can still do the same with current tactics and play style, thats what im talking about. only difference will be %8 block thats all.
Re: WP/DOK regen soulstone
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2026 3:31 pm
by crazyturkme
kpihuss wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2026 2:44 pm
I don't think it's a fair option.
No class has a Soulstone that generates its own mechanics points, so WPs/DoK shouldn't have one either.
tanky dps have hp egen
caster heals have ap regen
dps have ap regen
why not dok/wp?
Re: WP/DOK regen soulstone
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2026 3:32 pm
by crazyturkme
and i also agreed +10 will be overkill in my old answers, we agreed +2 -5 will be enough. read the post again pls .
Re: WP/DOK regen soulstone
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2026 3:37 pm
by kpihuss
crazyturkme wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2026 3:31 pm
kpihuss wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2026 2:44 pm
I don't think it's a fair option.
No class has a Soulstone that generates its own mechanics points, so WPs/DoK shouldn't have one either.
tanky dps have hp egen
caster heals have ap regen
dps have ap regen
why not dok/wp?
Because the HP/AP Regeneration is not exclusive for this classes.
Re: WP/DOK regen soulstone
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2026 4:25 pm
by crazyturkme
kpihuss wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2026 3:37 pm
crazyturkme wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2026 3:31 pm
kpihuss wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2026 2:44 pm
I don't think it's a fair option.
No class has a Soulstone that generates its own mechanics points, so WPs/DoK shouldn't have one either.
tanky dps have hp egen
caster heals have ap regen
dps have ap regen
why not dok/wp?
Because the HP/AP Regeneration is not exclusive for this classes.
yes but not all classes have mechanics so what u say is not for all. still def WE with +100 more hp regen soulstone is more important than class mechanic for me. sorry
Re: WP/DOK regen soulstone
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2026 6:36 pm
by Akalukz
bring in the "greater" talismans like triumphant uses and add a +2-4 regen and everyone becomes happy.