Return of Reckoning

gisborne wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2026 2:27 pm

Jeliel80 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2026 10:34 am You are not nerfing armor again and again are you?!
It's getting sillier and sillier...

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This is in line with the itemization changes. I pointed this out long ago when they changed the armor bonus on certain armor sets. Is it bad? In my opinion, yes. But it's not a targeted armor talisman nerf.

Oh no, it is targeted, armor has been targeted for a very long time, talisman already been nerfed from +180 to 136, potions halved in values.
With the damage being pretty much the highest in RoR since its birth, it's pretty annoying healing as a sitting duck.
Add also racials for Gobbo and Dwarf nerfed.
This has nothing to do with "being in line" with the rest of the stats, it's another huge defense nerf for healers.

And it's pretty clear they will nerf Renown defense with the rework as well, to be honest the direction of the game has been an utter disaster since the ability rework, but hey they're releasing PVE dungeons, hurra!

Not sure I'm gonna bother with RoR, unless there's a route change.

Another one bites the dust I guess...

gisborne wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2026 2:36 pm

borc1 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2026 10:44 am i hate pve so much its unreal. just watching the ugly npcs and their chopped animations makes me want to puke. theres no way to make pve enjoyable in this game if you ever even for a minute played wow. id rather run scarlet monastery for 8 hours straight than do one dungeon in ror

Good thing you don't have to do PvE in this game.

You have to if you want BiS gear in this pvp game, more so with almost every patch it seems.

Jeliel80 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2026 10:34 am You are not nerfing armor again and again are you?!
It's getting sillier and sillier...

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Because it takes too many WEs to kill... oh wait.

gisborne wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2026 2:36 pm

borc1 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2026 10:44 am i hate pve so much its unreal. just watching the ugly npcs and their chopped animations makes me want to puke. theres no way to make pve enjoyable in this game if you ever even for a minute played wow. id rather run scarlet monastery for 8 hours straight than do one dungeon in ror

Good thing you don't have to do PvE in this game.

yeah you have to if you want to stay competitive in pvp

cost should be drastically lowered, new talis should not be tradeable and armor talis don't need another nerf

1k crest is fine i guess but 3x champion's marks is absurd and super time-gated. for players who want to play all builds available to their class, thus requiring multiple sets of gear, this could unironically amount to months of weekly pve.

for a class that has 2 gear sets it's about 10 weeks of weekly speedruns, and 40+ dungeon runs in total. that's for just 1 character. please stop trying to shoehorn pve in to the game in manners that are intrusive. pve is fine and improving it is not the problem but making it FEEL forced is not enjoyable for most players.

For that cost the Talisman's should be at least +26, 16 extra stat points seems to be worth it. +8 is really lack luster for those requirements.

Jeliel80 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2026 2:47 pmarmor has been targeted for a very long time ... potions halved in values

Eh, armour values from potions and abilities got reduced by about 40% as they can now stack together. The other points are valid though.

So nice to force people more and more into the boring pve stuff....If i want to play pve i will play fellowship or wow. And If you dont have enough people in your guild to do some pve speed runs you even have to do it with shitty pugs....so much fun.

With all the desicions in the last years the guild i am in slowy decreased from beeing able to play as 24 guild wb to playing with 6-12 people.

Seems this is another nail into the coffin.

Anderlin wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2026 4:48 pm For that cost the Talisman's should be at least +26, 16 extra stat points seems to be worth it. +8 is really lack luster for those requirements.

Please no, or give way to get them from PvP only. But still bad idea to keep itemization ramp up for longer than it is now.

arturziomas wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2026 3:21 pm

gisborne wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2026 2:36 pm

borc1 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2026 10:44 am i hate pve so much its unreal. just watching the ugly npcs and their chopped animations makes me want to puke. theres no way to make pve enjoyable in this game if you ever even for a minute played wow. id rather run scarlet monastery for 8 hours straight than do one dungeon in ror

Good thing you don't have to do PvE in this game.

You have to if you want BiS gear in this pvp game, more so with almost every patch it seems.

Give specific examples, because other than BS weapons being (arguably) BiS everything else is either from PvP or you can buy with gold.