Return of Reckoning

Farrul wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2026 5:24 am 3) As new player you're likely a liability yourself to your team and contribute to the loss, since you haven't learned your class yet nor how to handle yourself in combat or support team mates. I would suggest playing a lot of T1/T3 scenarios and then stick to RvR until you grasp this correctly.

Dwarni wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2026 4:31 pm

Farrul wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2026 5:24 am 3) As new player you're likely a liability yourself to your team and contribute to the loss, since you haven't learned your class yet nor how to handle yourself in combat or support team mates. I would suggest playing a lot of T1/T3 scenarios and then stick to RvR until you grasp this correctly.

He is mainly a liability since gear and RR points make such an extreme difference.

Spazual wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2026 10:57 pm You're probably getting stomped out by premade scenario groups. Either try to join one in looking for group or create one and start doing the stomping

Dwarni wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2026 4:31 pm

Farrul wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2026 5:24 am 3) As new player you're likely a liability yourself to your team and contribute to the loss, since you haven't learned your class yet nor how to handle yourself in combat or support team mates. I would suggest playing a lot of T1/T3 scenarios and then stick to RvR until you grasp this correctly.

He is mainly a liability since gear and RR points make such an extreme difference.

gisborne wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2026 6:08 pm It only matters in T4, assuming that you get the appropriate PvE gear for your level (keepers, mayhem, ruin).

I'll also point out that it's terrible reasoning to assume the problem is the player. I could strut into a T4 scenario completely naked, be watching a World Cup game, barely paying attention, and still have little to no impact on whether my team wins or loses. Individual performance will only determine a win or loss if the match is close to begin with.

Dwarni wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2026 6:18 pm

gisborne wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2026 6:08 pm It only matters in T4, assuming that you get the appropriate PvE gear for your level (keepers, mayhem, ruin).

I'll also point out that it's terrible reasoning to assume the problem is the player. I could strut into a T4 scenario completely naked, be watching a World Cup game, barely paying attention, and still have little to no impact on whether my team wins or loses. Individual performance will only determine a win or loss if the match is close to begin with.

I mean we are talking about T4 right? Of course a single player has little impact in SCs, the more players there are the less impact a single one has. But still gear difference is so immense that you make an over average impact if you join as a fresh 40 (negative) or as a RR 80 player (positive).

UriShekelstein wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2026 6:28 pm T1 is as bad as T4 is as bad as T1. Nothing has changed. They said they made the MMing system better, but I haven't seen a damned bit of difference. The games are infuriating as they ever were. The only difference now is that I have games where I start off with a bunch of people missing, and others join as we're already on our way to a resounding loss. I really don't understand why it's so hard for a bunch of grown men to fix something that shouldn't require decades of profound thought.

Dwarni wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2026 7:12 pm

UriShekelstein wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2026 6:28 pm T1 is as bad as T4 is as bad as T1. Nothing has changed. They said they made the MMing system better, but I haven't seen a damned bit of difference. The games are infuriating as they ever were. The only difference now is that I have games where I start off with a bunch of people missing, and others join as we're already on our way to a resounding loss. I really don't understand why it's so hard for a bunch of grown men to fix something that shouldn't require decades of profound thought.

T1 is a lot better than T4. A level 1 char has a better chance of winning against a level 15 char than a fresh Rank 40 char winning against a RR 80 char.

UriShekelstein wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2026 6:01 pm Also, OP, my record for SC losses in a row was 22. Going 0-22 felt incredible. Truly a magnificent experience that will be cherished for eternity. Nothing makes you wanna keep playing quite like going against BiS pre-made farmers plowing through Conq-wearing peasants.

The game could be fixed very easily by way of dynamic (even static) number adjustments, but the devs/designers/GMs all have the same mindset.

That is, they want to cater to the geriatrics that can barely press five skills in rapid succession, but that have been playing the game for an eternity, and to do so, they have to keep them at an advantage by making it EXTREMELY difficult to grind through people that you know are terrible, but that you can't beat because of gear/stats.

The "veterans" then proclaim the following:
1) git gud
2) grind like we had to

Basically, new players don't stick around, and the population remains at a 300/day (NA time) level ad infinitum (when it SHOULD be 5K+, seeing how GREAT the base game, Warhammer Online, is).

As a thought experiment, imagine what would happen if there was a PVP game mode similar to Guild Wars (the original), where everyone was on an equal playing field.

The "vets" would lose their minds, as there would be fresh/young players demolishing them and leaving them in the dust. But this would shatter their delusional power fantasy, and once their fragile egos would break, they would be at risk of uninstalling.