Return of Reckoning

Ksekwlothreftis wrote: Thu Jun 25, 2026 11:15 am
TbP procs 2 guaranteed instances of bullets, RA maybe 1. All Krima did with this post is suggest an alternative build path that would ignore the busted deftard, Witchbrew and Sacrificial Stab builds that u keep yapping and crying about.

gersy wrote: Thu Jun 25, 2026 12:31 pm

Ksekwlothreftis wrote: Thu Jun 25, 2026 11:15 am
TbP procs 2 guaranteed instances of bullets, RA maybe 1. All Krima did with this post is suggest an alternative build path that would ignore the busted deftard, Witchbrew and Sacrificial Stab builds that u keep yapping and crying about.

TbP only guarantees on first and last shot of the channel, RA has a 50% chance on all hits which means on average it will proc 2-3 times over the course of the channel. This is how all kiss/bullet balance is done typically - such as other finisher abilities hitting in 2 damage instances which "should" result in a proc as well (50% per hit, 2 hits). Additionally kisses can proc from autoattacks so I think it's quite fair.

Ksekwlothreftis wrote: Thu Jun 25, 2026 12:51 pm

gersy wrote: Thu Jun 25, 2026 12:31 pm

Ksekwlothreftis wrote: Thu Jun 25, 2026 11:15 am
TbP procs 2 guaranteed instances of bullets, RA maybe 1. All Krima did with this post is suggest an alternative build path that would ignore the busted deftard, Witchbrew and Sacrificial Stab builds that u keep yapping and crying about.

TbP only guarantees on first and last shot of the channel, RA has a 50% chance on all hits which means on average it will proc 2-3 times over the course of the channel. This is how all kiss/bullet balance is done typically - such as other finisher abilities hitting in 2 damage instances which "should" result in a proc as well (50% per hit, 2 hits). Additionally kisses can proc from autoattacks so I think it's quite fair.

Its a 25% chance to proc per damage instance with a icd in between no?. Anyways I'm not trying to argue the balance between the 2 skills or the kiss and bullet mechanics, just pointing out the moronic reaction of the other guy. If both skills got buffed I would be equally happy.

Arguing about 2 other finishers and builds that cannot and will not be used it tandem with RA or arguing about the class not needing weapon skill investment for the literally only skill that actually did need weapon skill to get good results is just laughable man. People really don't know anything yet argue everything.

anaxandus wrote: Tue Jun 23, 2026 8:13 pm Man asks for buffs for most broken class in game. wow.

gersy wrote: Thu Jun 25, 2026 1:22 pm

Ksekwlothreftis wrote: Thu Jun 25, 2026 12:51 pm

gersy wrote: Thu Jun 25, 2026 12:31 pm


TbP only guarantees on first and last shot of the channel, RA has a 50% chance on all hits which means on average it will proc 2-3 times over the course of the channel. This is how all kiss/bullet balance is done typically - such as other finisher abilities hitting in 2 damage instances which "should" result in a proc as well (50% per hit, 2 hits). Additionally kisses can proc from autoattacks so I think it's quite fair.

Its a 25% chance to proc per damage instance with a icd in between no?. Anyways I'm not trying to argue the balance between the 2 skills or the kiss and bullet mechanics, just pointing out the moronic reaction of the other guy. If both skills got buffed I would be equally happy.

Arguing about 2 other finishers and builds that cannot and will not be used it tandem with RA or arguing about the class not needing weapon skill investment for the literally only skill that actually did need weapon skill to get good results is just laughable man. People really don't know anything yet argue everything.

yes, you're right. kiss is 25% to proc, my fault, i misspoke because in my head i was thinking about ability like puncture which is 2 hits. bad math by me as usual.

anyway this means average amount of kiss procs for a full RA channel would be 1.5 procs (6 x .25) so you're correct that on average it would be less than TbP's guaranteed 2 procs if both channels were uninterrupted, while having a higher potential ceiling if you got some decent luck.

i miss the old channeling build where you would go for full arpen, even as far as onslaught glove combo, and play around EoIP burst windows. i think it's much "cooler" than this SS/WB 6sov bloated build we have atm (also cooler than just normal SS build without 6sov).