Return of Reckoning

Fey wrote: Sun Apr 12, 2026 7:36 am Charge is out of the question, that is entirely too much.

Make weight of guilt snare 6 seconds all the time. Give judgement a chance to proc a 20% snare. That is plenty. These classes are the most over-developed in the game as it is.

The most overdeveloped would be melee squig herder.

You might have a point there, ha.

So we ignore the elephant in the room of the insane WP DPS damage tactics and the fact they are criting all the time and complain about a snare? OK .. nerf dps wp damage and you can have your snare back. 2H WP should not have both insane dmg and a snare. At least pretend to be balanced.

Morradin wrote: Tue Apr 14, 2026 11:43 am So we ignore the elephant in the room of the insane WP DPS damage tactics and the fact they are criting all the time and complain about a snare? OK .. nerf dps wp damage and you can have your snare back. 2H WP should not have both insane dmg and a snare. At least pretend to be balanced.

All of those "insane" tactics and somehow dps wp still does at best 80% of the dps of a full dps class, funny how that works.

give charge to wp but i want pounce and stealth on my choppa, fank you

tsyuryu wrote: Tue Apr 14, 2026 11:42 pm give charge to wp but i want pounce and stealth on my choppa, fank you

funny how not a single dps wp player has actually asked for charge but everybody else keeps bringing it up... A gap closer any kind really, maybe bring back the 20% snare on judgement. maybe a m1 root or snare. hell make flee stop removing SE/RF so they can use flee+ap pot, add it to the divine fury tactic so heal wp/dok can't use it, something.

Can you guys stop ask buffing most popular and well performing classes? One is asking to buff top-1 class in the history of the game (wp), another asking to buff wh...Waht next, you will ask for m16 rifle, or, lets not be shy, f16 jet?

DiMakss wrote: Wed Apr 15, 2026 1:06 am Can you guys stop ask buffing most popular and well performing classes? One is asking to buff top-1 class in the history of the game (wp), another asking to buff wh...Waht next, you will ask for m16 rifle, or, lets not be shy, f16 jet?

Did you even read the post? im not asking for m16, a jet fighter or anything, just something so WP can close gaps with ranged classes, DoK has the slow, why WP cant have it too? you need to learn how to read man.

Cullenn wrote: Wed Apr 15, 2026 3:40 am

DiMakss wrote: Wed Apr 15, 2026 1:06 am Can you guys stop ask buffing most popular and well performing classes? One is asking to buff top-1 class in the history of the game (wp), another asking to buff wh...Waht next, you will ask for m16 rifle, or, lets not be shy, f16 jet?

Did you even read the post? im not asking for m16, a jet fighter or anything, just something so WP can close gaps with ranged classes, DoK has the slow, why WP cant have it too? you need to learn how to read man.

If you use the "X class has this skill, why can't the mirror have it too?" argument, at least you have the consider those classes similarities/differences.

DoKs don't have an undefendable, high hitting, spirit based, attack which debuffs parry + block (Divine Impact), or a parry buff (Sigmar' Vision), or the AoE damage of WPs (Guilty Soul tactic). Moreover, to get the heal debuff they have to take a tactic which does little more than provide them the debuff (the additionall damage on Sanguinary Extensions requires you to also use Drowning in Blood, thus expending a lot of resources), and the spec is already tactics cramped (Divine Fury + Murderous Intent being mandatory). Also, DoKs don't have any spammable, high damage resource consuming skill in their DPS line, while WPs' one has a paper damage on par (or higher, with 3 Guilty Soul stacks) than the DoKs finisher, which can be used only on targets below 50% hp. Finally, DoKs don't have any wounds buff (Sigmar's Grace).

When you will consider all the above, maybe you will realise the two classes are deeply different, hence why you see melee WPs so often in the lakes, even in warbands, while melee DoKs are a rare sight on destro, even more so in warbands.

The "X class has this skill, why can't the mirror have it too?" argument is kinda weak in this contest, isn't it?

omg yes pls god add a charge and kd for wp maybe also just throw in champ challenge while were at it and pounce to wrap it all together