[pull] mara

[Panzer80]

You forgot to mention WL has pounce, the pull is instant on the pet's next attack, and the pet can be immune to CC with frenzy. WL also does not need a spec for it.. Mara pull needs some easier quality to offset less mobility of the WL. Since you can't pounce and it happens at the end of the channel it seems fair that it's not tied to a specialization or reliant on another mechanic.

You forgot to mention that for a WL pull to be viable at all, the WL must sacrifice a tactic slot to speed up the pet. Without that, you can forget about an effective pull.
There’s a clear lack of balance here. It shouldn’t be the case that the WL can only pull with an ST spec, while the Mara has no such requirement.

To summarize the requirements for a WL pull:
1. Must have ST spec, must have a pet
2. The pet must be alive
3. Must sacrifice a tactic slot

vs

Mara pull:
No requirements.

Mara should only have a pull if they’re in ST spec.

There are two solutions:
Either TE will be in the Savagery Mastery tree, or it will require tactics (like WL) and an active Savagery Stance.

Just so it’s not like I’m spreading Order-side propaganda, I’ll add that I’m mainly a Destro player, but I can’t turn a blind eye to obvious injustice. Especially since, after the MDPS patch, the two strongest classes in the game are on the Destro side: an absolutely OP WE and a very strong Mara.

P.S. There really aren’t many things left to fix for the game to look completely balanced. All that’s left is: fixing the bad WE balance (it’s OP), RDPS balance, and Mara pull.

Not true. The Lion is affected by charge which is sufficient to get pulls. With speed training its doubled speed buffed. Furthermore, 99% of WL and mara players are cowards who pull you into a mass of other players to do their work for them. Brining up needing to spec a certain way for WL to pull is a silly argument. The only lack of balance is on the forums of late. I actually have both classes with a lot of play time on each. As you ignored, mara is telegraphed at END of channel and is disrupted and the range check works last I tried. Mara also needs to risk themselves more by getting close where a pet has little risk to the players position. AND mara no pounce. Balance is fine. WL pull > Mara pull. I deny your entire premise. Mara pull should be easier but less effective due to low requirements. Order forum bias continues.

[wildwindblows]

Panzer mate, it was a bit harsh but true. I think bro try to say wl need to effort for pull (with tactic+skill+pet etc.) but mara just press a button.

When 3 mara pull one person is really annoying but 3 wl also can send kitty for pull but bro is not mention it.

I didn't try but most probably when 3 WL hit pull skill, only one of them pull and others get cd. But this scenario is not issue for mara because others can easily cancel without any drawback.