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M0rw47h
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Re: Classes shouldn't be balanced equally between faction mirrors

Post#21 » Thu Jan 15, 2026 9:32 pm

Tuffy wrote: Thu Jan 15, 2026 9:00 pm
Bozzax wrote: Thu Jan 15, 2026 4:04 pm Guys if you check stats you’ll notice order kill more then destruction since patch and are more effective as well.

Lions and masters even wo heals are consistently (over?)represented on top 10 killers. Pets are quite a lot better here on RoR and not as easy to dispose or slow as it used to be. Lets not push for further buffs please.

A good guess is that mobile and medium armoured WLs with better aoe (compared to live) will rule slayers and bws. Mostly based on the observation that no other class has gotten so much love attention by balancers.

Another quite reasonable bet is that BWs and Slayers wont have much love coming (since destruction as a whole is trailing).
Do you have a link to the stats? I do see wls being high on the killboard and in thewarcamp but it'd be nice to know how many of those are from small scale and roaming. And the thing about pet aoe dmg reduction is to make more gameplay types viable other than being forced into loner in large scale, you can argue even WH have more build diversity in skirmishes

and ofc this isn't to say to only buff order, my point is not to have a matter of buff one side over the other, i speak about order because it's the side i have experience with. I don't know about the state of marauder builds for example, i do know it's population significantly dropped tho
...but if pet won't die to AoE, then WL will have easy mode pull in large scale. You don't expect people to ST target 20 pets running around over players?

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Illuminati
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Re: Classes shouldn't be balanced equally between faction mirrors

Post#22 » Thu Jan 15, 2026 9:40 pm

The solution to the problem isn't buff WL more (btw, WL pets were immune to AOE damage back in 2017-2019 until we discovered it in 6 mans and made noise about it. Guardian WLs roamed the land and nothing could stop them lol.

I think the solution is tweak slayer/chopper to be less squishy so Order can develop a front line and move away from the ranged/tank meta. I hope the team doesn't use the Ranged DPS patch to make ranged stronger in hopes of combating the Destro melee meta. That would be a big mistake.
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Tuffy
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Re: Classes shouldn't be balanced equally between faction mirrors

Post#23 » Thu Jan 15, 2026 11:10 pm

Illuminati wrote: Thu Jan 15, 2026 9:40 pm The solution to the problem isn't buff WL more (btw, WL pets were immune to AOE damage back in 2017-2019 until we discovered it in 6 mans and made noise about it. Guardian WLs roamed the land and nothing could stop them lol.

I think the solution is tweak slayer/chopper to be less squishy so Order can develop a front line and move away from the ranged/tank meta. I hope the team doesn't use the Ranged DPS patch to make ranged stronger in hopes of combating the Destro melee meta. That would be a big mistake.
One thing is being immune and another is having 95%-ish aoe reduction, it means instead of dying in 2 seconds it dies in 10 if not taken care of

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Bozzax
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Re: Classes shouldn't be balanced equally between faction mirrors

Post#24 » Thu Jan 15, 2026 11:23 pm

Tuffy wrote: Thu Jan 15, 2026 9:00 pm
Bozzax wrote: Thu Jan 15, 2026 4:04 pm Guys if you check stats you’ll notice order kill more then destruction since patch and are more effective as well.

Lions and masters even wo heals are consistently (over?)represented on top 10 killers. Pets are quite a lot better here on RoR and not as easy to dispose or slow as it used to be. Lets not push for further buffs please.

A good guess is that mobile and medium armoured WLs with better aoe (compared to live) will rule slayers and bws. Mostly based on the observation that no other class has gotten so much love attention by balancers.

Another quite reasonable bet is that BWs and Slayers wont have much love coming (since destruction as a whole is trailing).
Do you have a link to the stats? I do see wls being high on the killboard and in thewarcamp but it'd be nice to know how many of those are from small scale and roaming. And the thing about pet aoe dmg reduction is to make more gameplay types viable other than being forced into loner in large scale, you can argue even WH have more build diversity in skirmishes

and ofc this isn't to say to only buff order, my point is not to have a matter of buff one side over the other, i speak about order because it's the side i have experience with. I don't know about the state of marauder builds for example, i do know it's population significantly dropped tho
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Wh/we have nerfs inc is my bet
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