Return of Reckoning

That's ridiculous, you're overreacting as if the white lion can't be damaged while he's pouncing. Think of it as a reverse punt.

dkabib wrote:It isn't suppose to do it. But I do think it is nice... =)
Just KB them out

I actually agree - it creates new tactical opportunities and the WL is already under-represented and having to deal with the lion AI. If this makes the skill more reliable and easier on the server computation, then by all means go for it. I was not sure if this was fully intended, and it looks like some minor tweaks will adjust the skill.
So welcome to the keep jumpers, unfortunately the mara pull is far away, so for now Destro has no matching skill until we can bypass the posterns again.

Morf wrote:Even tho i dont play a wl and im not a fan of pounce, i think its better to give them a reliable pounce even if that means pouncing on keep walls then the unreliable and sometimes useless pounce wl's had on live.

I agree, but I'm not convinced it's one or the other.

Pounce is a non-issue. If you are defending, and a WL does this, simply kill him. I suggest a KD and focus fire.

For anyone who feels that pounce is not working as intended , you are correct but only in 1 aspect the ability for wl to pounce out of champ challenge or roots , this should and I'm sure will be fixed. However as a rr 100 wl and a wl who played since original war beta I can tell you pounce has always allowed a wl to get into keeps as well and being able to negate punt . This was due to the fact that this is and has been the wl only job to be a nuisance and stay on target then pounce away to defend itself.
The wl main role was and is to pounce into the fray weather it be on a keep or even in a zerg of destro to keep pressure and to hope they get out. This is pretty much the only thing wl bring into a group that other melee dps can't do better. But the easy way to fix a wl pounce is to knock down and focus it because it is by far the most effective way to prevent the wl from doing its job.

There is the question of what's balanced, and there is the question of what most closely resembles how it worked on live. Personally, I'm more interested in the answer to the second question at the moment.

Luuca wrote:Pounce is a non-issue. If you are defending, and a WL does this, simply kill him. I suggest a KD and focus fire.

Pounce onto keep walls does not become an issue until they can banner rez. It's not like a of several groups of guarded and healed white lions are running in to fight a keep lord without the doors getting kicked in. The coordination to get this to happen would be impressive enough that I would let it slide, not to mention, they would all need a target on the walls to jump on in the first place.

It's an interesting side effect of fixing their z-axis issue, but ultimately not an issue for the skill.

--fixed your double post Xlime

wargrimnir wrote:

Luuca wrote:Pounce is a non-issue. If you are defending, and a WL does this, simply kill him. I suggest a KD and focus fire.

Pounce onto keep walls does not become an issue until they can banner rez. It's not like a of several groups of guarded and healed white lions are running in to fight a keep lord without the doors getting kicked in. The coordination to get this to happen would be impressive enough that I would let it slide, not to mention, they would all need a target on the walls to jump on in the first place.

It's an interesting side effect of fixing their z-axis issue, but ultimately not an issue for the skill.

--fixed your double post Xlime

Marauders were able to pull order (granted they were in los) from 2nd floor in keeps right?

kintari wrote: It might make sense to put an LOS restriction on pounce i.e. you would have to have LOS to the ground target position for pounce.

Sounds good.

Pounce has los on it already for instance if their is a rock in front of you ,you have to jump over the rock and then use pounce, same to get into a keep if their is not a target right on the outer edge of the keep then no white lions can get in.

Thank you for fixing my double post~cheers