Return of Reckoning

abezverkhiy1 wrote: Sun Sep 28, 2025 12:13 am Hey guys,

How do you fight WHs and what's the most difficult part in fighting against WHs?

It's funny that all those who are hysterical about def-WE here - are the guys on SM, who have almost all they pieces with hp/4sec (with 2fleshrender ofc), lol. I think the fact that you drive such hypocrites to hysteria alone is worth playing this build :3

As about you question...
So the main plan looks like this: if you open first - use Enfeebling Strike (dmg on movement) right after it use stun, envenomed blade/wrackling pains (dots) because WH will stagger you right after stun ends and you will want him to take some dmg from dots, when you staying in cc, right? After this he will do the same to you and he will use Repel Blasphemy ofc, which gives him 100%parry for 5sec, so you probably can use jump, to get oyt from melee range for this 5sec. After this you will just circling around and trying to bypass each other parrys . Dont forget about M1, which will give him another 7sec of 100%parry.

If WH gets open first - just eat dmg, then use jump right after stun on you ends, eat potion (because you already lose half+hp), stealth, repeat everything from previous plan^.

Btw, if you decide to play with a def build, ignoring the squeals of these hypocritical crybabies - you may choose the Ripost tactic, wich will do a LOT of dmg to wh, melee SW and slayers with duals (but almost dont do dmg to other melee classes, unfortunately). ANd if you really hate WH, you may play in 1 tree with tactic for 10%parry, ripost and OYK,(with Kiss of Doom and Sacrificial Rewarded ofc) which will made a living nightmare to every wh on serv.

Shieldslam wrote: Tue Sep 30, 2025 7:41 pmThanks for the advice. Though, while I do know how to tweak my build to fit the matchup (as you said, preferably 0% crit because of absorb on being crit / taunt into kd into channel, etc.) I simply refuse to play a procc regen build myself due to .. well, probably pride and ego? I don't see much sense in playing in a way that leaves my opponents without many, if any, chances. I'm full crit and if I die doing so then so be it but at the end of the day I can say I'm winning because of my gameplay not because my build carries me. My SM is specifically crafted in a way that provides me with a chance to win against anything if I play well (except good Sham/Zeal or def we/magus) without being ashamed of running it because I'm near invincible. If people want to have a 1v1 for 5 min trying to out-regen each other then they're welcome but I don't see much accomplishment in playing in such a way.

Of course, to each his own. I personally would change build and adapt if there was a certain hard to beat player but i can respect those that whish to play like you've described. Although most of the time i wouldn't change from my standard generalist 35% ish crit build even when fighting those WE's, it just takes a lot more effort to get through her bubble/heal.

coldhunter wrote: Wed Oct 01, 2025 10:13 amIt's funny that all those who are hysterical about def-WE here - are the guys on SM, who have almost all they pieces with hp/4sec (with 2fleshrender ofc), lol. I think the fact that you drive such hypocrites to hysteria alone is worth playing this build :3

SM may have ''hp/4sec'' like any other tank, since it is (keyword) a tank. (tanks are supposed to be tanky ,duh ). Guess who isn't a tank ? Witch Elf, guess who has stealth, disengage and is a dps class? Witch Elf. Hence the unethical aspect of a WE with all those advantages is that she is also capable to out-sustain almost anyone. The critiscm is of course fully justified in this case.

P.S. Nice first post

PPS. I do hope in the rework, that the WE ''dps build' is buffed and improved( likewise WH should be buffed a bit). It is just the Def build that needs to be abolished from this world.

abezverkhiy1 wrote: Mon Sep 29, 2025 1:38 am Thank you guys for your comments but I was hoping to see more constructive feedback rather than hatefest.

You came to the wrong place... This Forum is a super toxic salt desert

which def we set up are talking about ? can some one share built for it