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Re: Changelog 07/09 (Keeps / BOs)

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2015 6:40 pm
by Krapan
zarg64 wrote:nice!! but bad for destro...beacause ingé>wall>easy def... :roll: :roll: :roll:
destro can do the same thing using magus, maras and choppa. Dont whine about engis pls

Re: Changelog 07/09 (Keeps / BOs)

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2015 7:43 pm
by Osiapstndp
Panzarpaddan wrote:Nice work Az!

But Im curious, does the xp/renown rewards for defending a keep/BO somehow track healing aswell? Since I mostly play healer that would be a nice addition.
Destruction just finished a big keep defense of Madred's Hold. I gained maybe a few percent of exp and renown over quite a long time. The change that was applied to the server on September 3rd seems to no longer be in effect. How disappointing.

Re: Changelog 07/09 (Keeps / BOs)

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2015 7:50 pm
by Glorian
dkabib wrote:- Keep reward for capture reduced by 60%
Really?? =(
If you have read the other stuff you will see that you get less if you attack an empty keep.
If you fight against some defenders you will get more.

Re: Changelog 07/09 (Keeps / BOs)

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2015 7:53 pm
by dave2278
Will keeps drop t2 or t3 medallions

Re: Changelog 07/09 (Keeps / BOs)

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2015 7:59 pm
by dkabib
Glorian wrote:
dkabib wrote:- Keep reward for capture reduced by 60%
Really?? =(
If you have read the other stuff you will see that you get less if you attack an empty keep.
If you fight against some defenders you will get more.

Well we recently captured a keep with about 30 destro inside. We got 12k XP.
Need way more defenders to reach 20k.
People will start going after BOs only.

Re: Changelog 07/09 (Keeps / BOs)

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2015 8:04 pm
by Penril
dkabib wrote:
Glorian wrote:
dkabib wrote:- Keep reward for capture reduced by 60%
Really?? =(
If you have read the other stuff you will see that you get less if you attack an empty keep.
If you fight against some defenders you will get more.

Well we recently captured a keep with about 30 destro inside. We got 12k XP.
Need way more defenders to reach 20k.
People will start going after BOs only.
Question, how many attackers did you have? In order to take a keep with 30 defenders + keep lord, you must have had a LOT.

Xp is shared betweeen all of them. Stop zerging and you will get more XP.

Re: Changelog 07/09 (Keeps / BOs)

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2015 8:07 pm
by OldPlayer
Penril wrote: Question, how many attackers did you have? In order to take a keep with 30 defenders + keep lord, you must have had a LOT.

Xp is shared betweeen all of them. Stop zerging and you will get more XP.
I imagine the warband leader stating: "gentlemen, groups 3 and 4 leave now, for we want more xp for groups 1 and 2" or "[Advice] Mebest: wtf noobs go away from stk, go seek xp somewhere else ffs!"

Re: Changelog 07/09 (Keeps / BOs)

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2015 8:18 pm
by Penril
OldPlayer wrote:
Penril wrote: Question, how many attackers did you have? In order to take a keep with 30 defenders + keep lord, you must have had a LOT.

Xp is shared betweeen all of them. Stop zerging and you will get more XP.
I imagine the warband leader stating: "gentlemen, groups 3 and 4 leave now, for we want more xp for groups 1 and 2" or "[Advice] Mebest: wtf noobs go away from stk, go seek xp somewhere else ffs!"
What if a premade attacks a defended keep, manages to kill a lot of enemies, attacks the lord and suddenly a friendly WB arrives and finishes the lord. Will they count as "attackers" and gain some of the kill xp-pool the premade was making?

If so that would be really unfair and i would understand the "wtf noobs go away from stk, go leech xp somewhere else". Many people show at keeps and don't help at all.

Re: Changelog 07/09 (Keeps / BOs)

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2015 8:33 pm
by Soulcheg
Penril wrote:
Stop zerging and you will get more XP.
" - Hey guys, we understand that there 2 full WB's of your, but please, can you get the f out of the keep, because we need to take it with 4-6 ppl to get maximum exp, and we don't want to zerging?
- Sure, sure, we're just stand somewhere behind, take your time, jents"


Dude. Are you srs? Dude.

Re: Changelog 07/09 (Keeps / BOs)

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2015 8:38 pm
by Penril
Soulcheg wrote:
Penril wrote:
Stop zerging and you will get more XP.
" - Hey guys, we understand that there 2 full WB's of your, but please, can you get the f out of the keep, because we need to take it with 4-6 ppl to get maximum exp, and we don't want to zerging?
- Sure, sure, we're just stand somewhere behind, take your time, jents"


Dude. Are you srs? Dude.
You didn't get my point dude? are you serious? dude... Dude!

Attacker kills on a keep or BO now add a multiple of the total XP/Renown made for that kill to a pool which is shared between all attackers when the keep or BO is captured.

Which means the zerging realm won't get much xp/renown for keep takes, even if they get lots of kills.

Dude...

Btw, what is considered an "attacker"? Is it just someone standing semi-afk at the keep when it is taken? Because if they also get a share form the pool then this is a really bad change.