Return of Reckoning

Why do i need to try and reason with some one who is close minded and arrogant like you?

First off look at my posting history

i have not "tried to get order things nerfed and destrus buffed."

I have called for nerfs to kotbs b/c it stands head and shoulders above every tank i the game and has some nonsense abilities like 15% grp healing, 20% grp crit etc

I have called for changes to slayer b/c the class would have been the best melee in the game if it wasnt for bugged mara, or i have suggested try and make choppas AoE tree better

I have never asked for any destro class buffs/changes besides that for blorc and changes to how the rkds are distributed in the game

Ams and shams are equal, like many mirrors in this game different but equal; shams are better healers ams are better dps

I already said again that if you make changes to improve pet ai, if you make changes to how the stats are distributed for the wl pet and made it more durable and also depending on if az will do it, changes to tree organization on wl likes hes doing for blorcs and sms then the class can become strong
because of factors like nerfs to kotbs and slayers and sm becoming a popular second tank option will cause a meta shift that can make wl a more popular and competitive option furthermore with mara bug fixes and possible potential nerfs the classes will be equal

Why do people get so heated here? Personal attacks, strawmans etc... in almost every thread.

Coryphaus wrote:Why do i need to try and reason with some one who is close minded and arrogant like you?

First off look at my posting history

i have not "tried to get order things nerfed and destrus buffed."

I have called for nerfs to kotbs b/c it stands head and shoulders above every tank i the game and has some nonsense abilities like 15% grp healing, 20% grp crit etc

I have called for changes to slayer b/c the class would have been the best melee in the game if it wasnt for bugged mara, or i have suggested try and make choppas AoE tree better

I have never asked for any destro class buffs/changes besides that for blorc and changes to how the rkds are distributed in the game

Do you even realise what you're writing? Your whole post contradicts itself.

You are saying slayer would be best mdps if not for mara bugs, meanwhile slayer is bugged aswell, but you'd rather ignore that and instantly demand nerfs.
And please don't forget you wanted choppa buffs and wl nerfs just some posts ealier. While Choppa>>>WL

No one cares about dps AM/Shaman in t4, their are completly irrelevvant for grouplay lategame.
It's all about who is the better healer/survivor and shaman is so much better. So Shaman>>>AM and they're no way equal.

Again you didn't respond to any of my points about the mara/wl issue. And stop with the pet issue, even a vastly improved pet ai/responsibility wouldn't make any difference.

Funny how today reasoning your arguments is considered beeing closminded and arrogant.
Way to go...

Edit: And no good Kotbs runs 20% crit AND 15% heal (which isn't that great anyway because inc hds.). Kotbs is the strongest tank I agree with that, but not as broken as u make it.

tell me do you think dok and wp are equal? cause 1 is better at healing and the other is better dps

this is a statement of if the are balanced towards each other, even if they were not run i grps are you ging to tell me wh and we are not equal? that sorcs and bws are not equal?

slayer having bugs here in ror is irrelevant as we are talking about late game on live and with rampage, shatter limbs and ID the class was the best if it wasnt for mara with its bugs

choppa > wl is irrelevant cause chops and wl are not mirrors


Quite frankly I don't care what produce think of me so if you want, shift this to pms and I might feel like responding to you cause were derailing this thread

Coryphaus wrote:tell me do you think dok and wp are equal? cause 1 is better at healing and the other is better dps

this is a statement of if the are balanced towards each other, even if they were not run i grps are you ging to tell me wh and we are not equal? that sorcs and bws are not equal?

slayer having bugs here in ror is irrelevant as we are talking about late game on live and with rampage, shatter limbs and ID the class was the best if it wasnt for mara with its bugs

choppa > wl is irrelevant cause chops and wl are not mirrors


Quite frankly I don't care what produce think of me so if you want, shift this to pms and I might feel like responding to you cause were derailing this thread

Btw you started derailling this build with crying about balance.
I just responded because I don't like ppl who have no idea of balance trying to spread falls information, I don't want balance changes based on the fact they got **** on by some classes.

Again dok and wp dps are irrelevant. And yes they're as equal as it gets regarding their quality as healer.
"But wp got more heal!", Yes, but tell me how good is this tactic in 6vs6? (Order needs wp+rp here, so if destru doesn't focus on wp it's useless)
And even if you're not talking about 6vs6, DoK can cleanse slayer stuff, while wp can't cleanse mara stuff.
This hurts the wp quite a bit. (ye DoK can't cleanse WL, but wait, he doesn't need to anyway.)
So yes they're equal.

Your sentence about slayers is just a mess and makes no sense at all.
Second Edit: Maybe you don't get it, but slayer was bugged on LIVE. ID was bugged on live. I already explained how it made slayer way stronger.

Choppa>>> WL is irrelevant because they're mirrors? What the hell is that logic?
You ask for buffs for a already strong class (choppa) and want a trash one to be nerfed (WL), that's just retarded.

And **** yes, this game should be balanced around group play not about soloing.
So next time you get rekt by a dps AM maybe just go, get a tank, get some healers, get a full group instead of crying.

Edit: We can go with pms, but only if you stop spreading your destru/choppa bias (which is your main ofc who would have thought) in every thread I seem to read.