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Re: Lets Theory-craft: Slayers vs Choppas

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:14 pm
by Azarael
I've said it before but I'll say it again: changing ability positions can be done in about ten seconds, so let's not have any "omg you can't afford to waste your time doing this" comments.

Re: Lets Theory-craft: Slayers vs Choppas

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:24 pm
by Coryphaus
Switching DWLF with the pointless pve hate tactic would even things out a bit, as Brute force + wild gambit slayers with 2h's are hitting almost as hard as sever nerve when bezerk



But on the grand scheme of things changing tactics around will not address the disparity between choppas and slayers, only delay the issue

Re: Lets Theory-craft: Slayers vs Choppas

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:38 pm
by RyanMakara
Azarael wrote:Why not just swap the hate tactic at 15 out with Don't Wanna Live Foreva and end it that way?
Yes please. <3

Re: Lets Theory-craft: Slayers vs Choppas

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:39 pm
by jonspidy
Azarael wrote:I've said it before but I'll say it again: changing ability positions can be done in about ten seconds, so let's not have any "omg you can't afford to waste your time doing this" comments.
pssssst pw for WH's ;)

Re: Lets Theory-craft: Slayers vs Choppas

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:40 pm
by RyanMakara
Coryphaus wrote:Switching DWLF with the pointless pve hate tactic would even things out a bit, as Brute force + wild gambit slayers with 2h's are hitting almost as hard as sever nerve when bezerk



But on the grand scheme of things changing tactics around will not address the disparity between choppas and slayers, only delay the issue
We could probably balance out those later tree abilities such as Rampage, Inevitable Doom and Shatter Limbs once they appear in T3, couldn't we?

Re: Lets Theory-craft: Slayers vs Choppas

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:45 pm
by Adell
Coryphaus wrote:But on the grand scheme of things changing tactics around will not address the disparity between choppas and slayers, only delay the issue
I have no idea how hard it would be to mirror an ability but honestly it's mainly ID that's causing the gap. When they created that ID-remove addon on live servers the two classes were fine all of a sudden.

When the day comes maybe it will be possible to mirror Git To Da Choppa or change ID to only hit one additional target or make it cleansable. Slayers will still wreck people with Rampage in duels but who the f cares about that. :P

Re: Lets Theory-craft: Slayers vs Choppas

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:50 pm
by Penril
Afaik, RoR will have a cleansable ID. On top of that, procs won't trigger more procs.

Re: Lets Theory-craft: Slayers vs Choppas

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:56 pm
by Tklees
Nerfing ID would bridge the gap IMO. making it cleansable would be the best bet. Shortening rampages duration to 10 sec and maybe the choppa CD decreaser abilities to 1 min would about do it in full

Re: Lets Theory-craft: Slayers vs Choppas

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 10:09 pm
by Coryphaus
Tklees wrote:Nerfing ID would bridge the gap IMO. making it cleansable would be the best bet. Shortening rampages duration to 10 sec and maybe the choppa CD decreaser abilities to 1 min would about do it in full


Yeah I think this is the best set of ideas, this paired with giving choppas DWLF at 15 like slayers would defiantly make te classes more equal in terms of standing

Oh and making sure that KD duration is same for both of them

Re: Lets Theory-craft: Slayers vs Choppas

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 10:27 pm
by magter3001
A lot of this talk is about T3-T4. Don't we have a year or so 'til that happens? As it stands, I'm okay with my Choppa and how their fair against Order. If I want more damage, I get the jagged edge tactic, If I want more survivability, I can use the wounds tactic. Would it be nice to have a little more strength and WS? Sure... but I'm just happy I got my heal debuff. ;)