[IronBreaker] Grumble An’ Mutter

[akisnaakkeli]

Grumble and You Wot are iconic abilities (cool, fun, lore) for IB and BO. Just doesn't feel quite the same without them.

Grumble is iconic ability but You Wot?! was RoR Skill when they didnt know what to do with the class, but it had CDR bavk then, and if someone should have CDR on destro, its blorc not Bg. Black Orc Bruiser Shield Spec with 1k tree hit combo crits while having huge avoidances as blorc was the best <3 i would call Tree hit Combo blorc much more iconic and something that people want bacvk more than you wot?! You wot was very Op but blorc now lacks everything:(

Also something Iconic was double Ws buff about 240ws blorc had with No Choppin me' tactic. Usable on himself or def target.

[Bollocks]

Concur

[zulnam]

Nah. Those abilities were purely for solo, maybe 2-man roam.

In a 6-man or WB scenario with a serious group you'd get kicked for running them.

BG clearly got a major buff in place of it's heal.

IB's group buff is... ehh. Maybe in a 6-man where ST dps specs are dominant and you want that extra dmg on a single target. So even for WB the new ability can be useful if you are in a ST group. But in open RvR, ehh.
Would've probably worked better as a flat 10% dmg increase to the group.

[memesperg]

all i see in this thread is 2h IB players complaining they lost a regen they can use to make up for not using a shield, its gone move on & crying wont get it back so rip 2h IBs wanting to regen through all the damage lolz

[Culexus]

Grumble is iconic ability but You Wot?! was RoR Skill when they didnt know what to do with the class, but it had CDR bavk then, and if someone should have CDR on destro, its blorc not Bg. Black Orc Bruiser Shield Spec with 1k tree hit combo crits while having huge avoidances as blorc was the best <3 i would call Tree hit Combo blorc much more iconic and something that people want bacvk more than you wot?! You wot was very Op but blorc now lacks everything:(

Also something Iconic was double Ws buff about 240ws blorc had with No Choppin me' tactic. Usable on himself or def target.

People say that BO should have the CDR, but I have to disagree. Even though it would be awesome to have it back, if we had both CDR and We'z Bigger BO would become like CH and become mandatory in every group, leaving no room for BG beyond maybe a single 2h for Crimson Death spec. With CDR going to BG it gives them a reason to be run a group as BO brings We'z Bigger and BG brings CDR, balancing the tanks against each other. CH of course are still in a league of their own with auras.

As for the OP, this could all be cleared up with a bit of communication from the team as to why it wasn't brought back. Everyone knows that when you work in a job where management keep everything to themselves and never explain anything to staff that staff will come up with their own explanations of why things have happened, which management will then get annoyed with as it's not true, but still won't clear up anything as they won't communicate, so the cycle continues. Half the topics on the forum could be cleared up and become much more constructive with a bit of communication. There was a recent post where a full explanation about why the 9-aoe cap change was given. Cleared everything up for everyone and allowed for more constructive discussion. That's how it should be done.

[hogun]

I read ridiculous things about 2H IBs... I'm the one who made the post and I've been playing IB with a shield for 10 years on this server... Back when Volgograde made IBs dream and everyone said 'IB is only played with 2H,' I was saying 'No, IB is just as powerful with a shield and just as interesting.'Please, stop saying nonsense.

The question isn't whether to bring back this skill, the question is when, unless the devs are liars, which I don't believe. The question isn't whether it creates an imbalance. its juste THE iconique skill !
for the balance, I've dueled all the classes in the game, and I can say that with G&M it's better, but that's not what makes IB strong, and IB is certainly not the best dueling class. all tank with a regen build is stronger or equivalent to an IB with G&M (assuming equivalent gear and skill level)." and probably the chosen is the best of all ...and i dont said .. " nerf the chosen" !

[ince]

Bump on this. can we please get an update on or if it returns?

[Adelmar]

Lets be fair that heal was core for solo dueling and and allowed IB to have unprotected sexual sesion with 3 WEs at the same time and satisfy them all.

What a painful image

[hogun]

Lets be fair that heal was core for solo dueling and and allowed IB to have unprotected sexual sesion with 3 WEs at the same time and satisfy them all.

What a painful image

>>>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sA-KbXZvxv8

[vanbuinen77]

If it comes back, it wont be a heal.

Be careful what you wish for.