Return of Reckoning

Wl is more burst damage based. A mara that knows his job and stick to an healer will give a hard time, contrary to wl.

reading about WH … are you serious??

Biggest Nerf to a class in RoR history is WH and then Slayer. And we all know why this happened.

Posts like this is breaking the game. Soon you will see 0 population on Order.

Why do we see so many Shs lately?
Lol even the pet is killing more than a regular order dps.
Dont tell me all are rollplayers like Freebotaz.

WL pet is broken fo months… core
Mechanix is the pet.

And now crying about spinn2win?
Fix the pet of the WLso the class can be played.

You cant make a 6vs6 comparison at the moment.
Lets first wait on the dps phase to be finished.

ASW is S tier?? If thats true then Marauder and MsH is S+++

They made 1 change for Zealot and immediately a forum post about it from a zealot player…

This game is changing fast to a bias game.

@akeskin did you even took the time to read the post ?
Don't worry about order population there is still plenty of player.
The goal of that topic was to compare Mdps ST spec from ORDER, I wasnt talking about AOE spec and WB viability, and I didnt talked about destro but hey when you have no argument about a topic you just deviate that topic to what you want so your arguments can fit in ...
WL pet is broken for more than months TBH, but since its the counter to WL in squad if you made that pet perfect with his movement (wich is I bet super complicated to do) and tanky well WL wont have much of a counter play.
The crying about spinn2win was irrelevent to the topic once again.
The goal is to give feedback BEFORE the changes not after when people will see nerfs and buffs and spent more time cryin than anything else.
For ST partys, Mara and ASW are probably on the same ranking in my opinion (BTW you really cant read cause I classified ASW A++), MSH in ST are worst than ASW.
Bringing Zealot to the topic now ... From comparing ST MDPS ORDER class to AOE comp and spec and now destro healers ... why did I even answered your post -_-'

Vibax wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2024 5:21 am
The goal is to give feedback BEFORE the changes not after when people will see nerfs and buffs and spent more time cryin than anything else.

To give you that feedback somebody need analyze lvl of all dps (not only order) burst/pressure with perfect rotations (including arm pen and ap starvation), then check all special skills that provide uniq mechnic to class and compare them to mirrors, than check all morales and skills that dont have mirrors, then fully check tactics to understand variants of builds and synergy with other clases. And even than u need to count some hidden stuff like that asw/wh dont even have aoe to drop challenges normally, that pet constantly dead/bugged or used as snack, how easy to catch/stick to target, value of stake of wh, how easy to stay alive in chch and basilion other stuff.

So you really want this info, gather strongest players, devs, go test server and gather it, becouse you will never get it from random opinions. Nobody even knows the logic on any numbers of dps/healing/protectins and why its in current form. Only devs know it, cos they where persons who constantly changed its original form, we can just discuss obvious stuff.

Do You really bring this nerf wl thing now?
I am bafled. Its been since December 2023 WL become usable only in Loner spec. That means no fetch, no kd, no silence, no ST burst. Whats left for WL is armor debuff(can be provided by IB), pounce and ranged root M1.
I tried pet WL since abíity rework patch, God know I tried it. Pet does not react to charge, it despawn randomly, run oposite direction than ordered targget or is killed in 2-3seconds in small scale/SCs.
Do You even play one in last 6-7 months?