AH destro so empty !

[Tesq]

Just wow, whining got to a whole new level as I see. Really, Tesq, you're salty about ppl making money off AH? It's economics 101 - buy cheap, sell high. So nothing wrong with that at all. And it requires to stare at AH boards for a long time to see what's trending, what's not and to invest accordingly. And you wouldn't believe how much money you can make off lazy ppl. I've done it in other games and it's so profitable, you don't need to get out of the city to get rich.
Also, ppl tend to undercut here so bad just to sell stuff fast, so it's no brainer to buy their things and re-sell at higher prices.
jeez...

That's one!.....if all would do that way economy would go in ruins..... price will continue rise forever.....

i spoke of ppl that only do that and do it for the sole purpose of extremly increase prices btw, whole group of ppl that controll the ah; i knew one, it was in my old guild. He owned like 1k gold with buy and re sell things in ah..... Once he told me that he had few money, only 700 gold ...... -.-

this is btw not correct, i would like to see a bound to pick after the buy from ah in some way.

[radiantknight]

That's one!.....if all would do that way economy would go in ruins..... price will continue rise forever.....

i spoke of ppl that only do that and do it for the sole purpose of extremly increase prices btw

this is btw not correct, i would like to see a bound to pick after the buy from ah in some way.

making itmes BoP will ruin economy. And it's very boyish attitude to make market work by your rules, since you fail to go by its rules. Seriously, I don't like prices for RS, let's make hard cap for them at 50g?
I'd rather think of another thing and that goes out to DB team - there are numerous items without prices, so the fee on AH for them is 1b, that's not right, cause even when you sell it for 5s you still make profit and contibute nothing to economical sink, which is in fact needed to regulate the market. Also, the 'sink' should not be tied to item vendor price, but the player's price for it. E.g. some calamitous stuff sells for 28s at vendor and has 5s auction fee, no matter the price you name. So if you sell it for 1g, fee is still 5s, which is not helping in maintaining economy, since the 'sink' is negligible.

Ps. And just FYI, I'm kinda the undercutter one, since i have no excessive need for gold, since RS is not present on AH, i don't have any goals to reach. But when i start to play on AH, beware

[Tklees]

Playing the AH is part of every mmo. An mmo is a simulated world with its own economy and political struggles (rvr, dominant guilds,etc) and social environment. Some people play for each aspect of the game. I used to run the 3k pot market on gorfang as my source of income. 20g a stack and buy everyone under me. In a game this small it requires little to no effort to make money off the AH and those that complain about people who do are just lazy.

[Coryphaus]

I strongly disagree with the "easy to make money thing" because the the best way to make money is through repeated kill quests otherwise you need to farm for hours lvl 17 mobs to get butchers gear and the only peices that will net you a nice amount are the jewels and farming clamit gear isn't worth it because it's so common place now and trying to roll for stuff is pure luck with 11 or more other people

Like tesq all this will go away with full rvr sets; no ones gonna care about woe or rune enough to give up the set bonuses provided by oblit or annilator n stuff but who knows how long it will be before we get their hence why I feel we should have vendors with this stuff using war crests because the serve no purpose atm and the desire for sc weapons have lead people to afk waiting for pop instead of orvring to a large extent

[Tklees]

I strongly disagree with the "easy to make money thing" because the the best way to make money is through repeated kill quests otherwise you need to farm for hours lvl 17 mobs to get butchers gear and the only peices that will net you a nice amount are the jewels and farming clamit gear isn't worth it because it's so common place now and trying to roll for stuff is pure luck with 11 or more other people

Like tesq all this will go away with full rvr sets; no ones gonna care about woe or rune enough to give up the set bonuses provided by oblit or annilator n stuff but who knows how long it will be before we get their hence why I feel we should have vendors with this stuff using war crests because the serve no purpose atm and the desire for sc weapons have lead people to afk waiting for pop instead of orvring to a large extent

You assume people who play the AH farm for items. They do not. "Playing the AH" is based around buying an item at a lower price and then selling it at a higher price. No farming involved. And yes it is easy to buy an item, take it from mailbox, and repost it for more than you bought it. The only problem is that currently the repost prices are very high because of the skism between the people with lots of gold and the casual player.

I'd assume the average player has about 20-30g at this point. With that much you are effectively priced out of the Woe market where pieces go for 30-150 gold. While the players who have gold gear out alts better than most players mains.

I agree than gold and RNG being the only way to obtain gear currently is not optimal for the average player but this is an alpha server and we know that the future holds armor sets and vendor options for tokens. In the mean time as morfee has said many times, the difference between woe and calam/butchers is not enough to really care about. Good players will still be good, bad players will still be bad. It's not like we are talking about warpforged here.

[Coryphaus]

Jesus that sounds boring as **** and further more most I meet who do what've woe only want to do class for class trades or don't want gold

[radiantknight]

Actually, since RS has lower drop rates than winning a lottery, gold is not that needed, but human is still human and hunger for money is in his blood.
Also, let me just make one example of how AH works most of the time. I've got +18 str ring from mob, looked it up on AH, there was none to be found, so I just went with 15g price, because I can(also int ones are priced the same). Think that's ridiculous? Me too, but next day i got that gold nonetheless.

[Tklees]

Actually, since RS has lower drop rates than winning a lottery, gold is not that needed, but human is still human and hunger for money is in his blood.
Also, let me just make one example of how AH works most of the time. I've got +18 str ring from mob, looked it up on AH, there was none to be found, so I just went with 15g price, because I can(also int ones are priced the same). Think that's ridiculous? Me too, but next day i got that gold nonetheless.

15 is cheap for 18str could easily get 40

[Joshwa70]

yea.. seeing as how they are the best attainable gear in the game for most mdps and tanks.

[Coryphaus]

Yeah thankfully chapters 8 and 9 provide some really good inf gear that is as good as if not slightly better than woe items in some cases