Re: Green Cleanin' Nerf
Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2025 6:31 am
Is Green Cleanin' fixed or is it still broken?
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Re: Green Cleanin' Nerf
Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2025 3:18 pm
^still broken? In the patch they claim they fixed some bugs but I haven't had time to try this yet.
Re: Green Cleanin' Nerf
Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2025 4:05 pm
The bug report that you raised ( https://bugs.returnofreckoning.com/view.php?id=22657 ) has a very clear answer - "Working as intended". So, I think it's a little much to bump this thread every few months asking if it's "fixed".Ysaran wrote: Sun Apr 20, 2025 3:18 pm ^still broken? In the patch they claim they fixed some bugs but I haven't had time to try this yet.
At least approach the issue in an appropriate way given the fact that it's been very clearly stated as intentional behavior - go open a new thread explaining why you think a change is necessary and why it'd be better if it stacked.
But let's not keep bumping this thread asking if the bug has been fixed when you're the person who literally raised the bug report and got told it wasn't a bug.
And to be clear, I'm on your side - I would love it to stack again. But if you care so much, at least go about achieving the change in the right way.
Re: Green Cleanin' Nerf
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2025 12:03 pm
Hey, thanks for pointing out they asnwered to the report. I honestly didn't think about checkingHecksa wrote: Sun Apr 20, 2025 4:05 pmThe bug report that you raised ( https://bugs.returnofreckoning.com/view.php?id=22657 ) has a very clear answer - "Working as intended". So, I think it's a little much to bump this thread every few months asking if it's "fixed".Ysaran wrote: Sun Apr 20, 2025 3:18 pm ^still broken? In the patch they claim they fixed some bugs but I haven't had time to try this yet.
At least approach the issue in an appropriate way given the fact that it's been very clearly stated as intentional behavior - go open a new thread explaining why you think a change is necessary and why it'd be better if it stacked.
But let's not keep bumping this thread asking if the bug has been fixed when you're the person who literally raised the bug report and got told it wasn't a bug.
And to be clear, I'm on your side - I would love it to stack again. But if you care so much, at least go about achieving the change in the right way.
. Though, this hit me as really unexpected. What's the point of that tactic if it is "working as intended"? Also, as I stated in the OP, I checked in ALL the old patch notes and there is no mention of the change. So, unless I made a mistake while checking (whcih is entirely plausible) this is literally a ninja nerf, which is really sad.Re: Green Cleanin' Nerf
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2025 12:11 pm
Ysaran wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 12:03 pm
Hey, thanks for pointing out they asnwered to the report. I honestly didn't think about checking
It is most likely a fix during the new Ability Rework to make it in line with the tooltip and the normal stacking rules.
Unless stated in the tooltip, damaging/healing/absorbing over time abilities do not stack on the same target and from the same caster.
For example, you cannot put the same dot on the same same target twice, unless specified by the ability (see Mara's Rend or WE's Envenomed Blade). The same goes for Green Cleanin' that counts as an "ability" (tactic that affects an ability).
As such, the current behavior is correct. If it is underpowered, that is a topic of balancing.
Re: Green Cleanin' Nerf
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2025 2:16 pm
I made a balance suggestion to bring back the previous iteration of the tactic, but I'm honest: I think they will not change it. It is clearly NOT working as inteded and yet it passed throug the "healer patch" untouched, so I guess the the team position on this matter is clear.
Re: Green Cleanin' Nerf
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2025 2:46 pm
Without stacking the tactic is useless. If they keep non stacking rule they should keep the heal amount but compress it within 5 sec so to match cleanse cd. That way you could keep it up 100 % of the time without overlapping
Re: Green Cleanin' Nerf
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2025 7:26 pm
Still makes no sense, you can decrease cleanse' CD to 3s with class mechanicsNameless wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 2:46 pm Without stacking the tactic is useless. If they keep non stacking rule they should keep the heal amount but compress it within 5 sec so to match cleanse cd. That way you could keep it up 100 % of the time without overlapping
Re: Green Cleanin' Nerf
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2025 6:18 am
They should have made the tactic just part of the base ability (no stacking). No point in using now.
Re: Green Cleanin' Nerf
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2025 6:55 am
The tactic is really one of efficiency. With one gcd you cleanse, absorb, and hot; with ticks that can crit. The fact that it doesn't stack only affects Greenskin racial groups.
If you're cleansing on cool down even without the mechanic you're refreshing your own hot anyway. This is a non issue, imo. Cleanse someone else in that case if you're worried about maxing out.
If you're cleansing on cool down even without the mechanic you're refreshing your own hot anyway. This is a non issue, imo. Cleanse someone else in that case if you're worried about maxing out.