Haha ! nice patch. Good changes for Choppa finally. Bye Bye ugly savage dwarf. Now gonna have to show skills to do good whit class.
Re: Patch Notes 06/02/2024
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 5:58 pm
by xarfay
MedV wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 5:44 pm
So IB Damage reduced, Slayer main ability nerfed. Choppa gets new aoe ability and the ability every Choppa spams that also pulls now gets damage increase.
Serious question, does any of the Balancing Team Devs play Order?
Melee Squig is the better version of the WL and now the Choppa is just the better version of the slayer. Order mostly plays range already and cone of fire was recently changed.
WL is now the main AOE MDPS for order yet they have 3 AOE abilities (DOT, Channel and spamable Cleave). I know there is no direct mirrors but the MSH got almost all the aoe abilities plus alot more survival tools including a KB and Self KB and the Marauder has all 3 WL AOE abilities but the AOE dot also reduces WS and Initiative.
Please give the WL something, either make the dot also reduce WS and Initiative like the Mara or give them a Self KB like the MSH. ( I would say getting pounce plus Self KB is OP but the MSH already has it ).
Or give the slayer the new Choppa skill or a group pull now that rampage is heavily nerfed. The argument for the Choppa having the pull was that Rampage was OP - Well its not anymore.
Please Please Please think about Order when making balance changes. Stop nerfing the Order toons which kill you in game.
LOLOLOLLLL
Re: Patch Notes 06/02/2024
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 6:08 pm
by Sulorie
MedV wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 5:44 pm
So IB Damage reduced, Slayer main ability nerfed. Choppa gets new aoe ability and the ability every Choppa spams that also pulls now gets damage increase.
Serious question, does any of the Balancing Team Devs play Order?
I read it as if pull was removed and their damage increased.
Re: Patch Notes 06/02/2024
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 6:13 pm
by Akilinus
Re: Patch Notes 06/02/2024
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 6:14 pm
by Wdova
MedV wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 5:44 pm
So IB Damage reduced, Slayer main ability nerfed. Choppa gets new aoe ability and the ability every Choppa spams that also pulls now gets damage increase.
Serious question, does any of the Balancing Team Devs play Order?
Melee Squig is the better version of the WL and now the Choppa is just the better version of the slayer. Order mostly plays range already and cone of fire was recently changed.
WL is now the main AOE MDPS for order yet they have 3 AOE abilities (DOT, Channel and spamable Cleave). I know there is no direct mirrors but the MSH got almost all the aoe abilities plus alot more survival tools including a KB and Self KB and the Marauder has all 3 WL AOE abilities but the AOE dot also reduces WS and Initiative.
Please give the WL something, either make the dot also reduce WS and Initiative like the Mara or give them a Self KB like the MSH. ( I would say getting pounce plus Self KB is OP but the MSH already has it ).
Or give the slayer the new Choppa skill or a group pull now that rampage is heavily nerfed. The argument for the Choppa having the pull was that Rampage was OP - Well its not anymore.
Please Please Please think about Order when making balance changes. Stop nerfing the Order toons which kill you in game.
Reason to get choppa in a warband are now gone completely. 0 utility for group, with damage buff and new AOE skill they can now reach melee squig damage outpoot.
MedV wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 5:44 pm
So IB Damage reduced, Slayer main ability nerfed. Choppa gets new aoe ability and the ability every Choppa spams that also pulls now gets damage increase.
Serious question, does any of the Balancing Team Devs play Order?
Melee Squig is the better version of the WL and now the Choppa is just the better version of the slayer. Order mostly plays range already and cone of fire was recently changed.
WL is now the main AOE MDPS for order yet they have 3 AOE abilities (DOT, Channel and spamable Cleave). I know there is no direct mirrors but the MSH got almost all the aoe abilities plus alot more survival tools including a KB and Self KB and the Marauder has all 3 WL AOE abilities but the AOE dot also reduces WS and Initiative.
Please give the WL something, either make the dot also reduce WS and Initiative like the Mara or give them a Self KB like the MSH. ( I would say getting pounce plus Self KB is OP but the MSH already has it ).
Or give the slayer the new Choppa skill or a group pull now that rampage is heavily nerfed. The argument for the Choppa having the pull was that Rampage was OP - Well its not anymore.
Please Please Please think about Order when making balance changes. Stop nerfing the Order toons which kill you in game.
Reason to get choppa in a warband are now gone completely. 0 utility for group, with damage buff and new AOE skill they can now reach melee squig damage outpoot.
Choppa is "Supposed to be brought for damage alone" they should do more damage than other classes then. In your same way of thinking why take an AOE WL? What utility do they bring?
MedV wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 5:44 pm
So IB Damage reduced, Slayer main ability nerfed. Choppa gets new aoe ability and the ability every Choppa spams that also pulls now gets damage increase.
Serious question, does any of the Balancing Team Devs play Order?
Melee Squig is the better version of the WL and now the Choppa is just the better version of the slayer. Order mostly plays range already and cone of fire was recently changed.
WL is now the main AOE MDPS for order yet they have 3 AOE abilities (DOT, Channel and spamable Cleave). I know there is no direct mirrors but the MSH got almost all the aoe abilities plus alot more survival tools including a KB and Self KB and the Marauder has all 3 WL AOE abilities but the AOE dot also reduces WS and Initiative.
Please give the WL something, either make the dot also reduce WS and Initiative like the Mara or give them a Self KB like the MSH. ( I would say getting pounce plus Self KB is OP but the MSH already has it ).
Or give the slayer the new Choppa skill or a group pull now that rampage is heavily nerfed. The argument for the Choppa having the pull was that Rampage was OP - Well its not anymore.
Please Please Please think about Order when making balance changes. Stop nerfing the Order toons which kill you in game.
Reason to get choppa in a warband are now gone completely. 0 utility for group, with damage buff and new AOE skill they can now reach melee squig damage outpoot.
Choppa is "Supposed to be brought for damage alone" they should do more damage than other classes then. In your same way of thinking why take an AOE WL? What utility do they bring?
When you have AOE marauder with morale drain, AOE KD, AOE initiate/ws debuff and okay ish damage and Melee squig with damage outpoot of choppa, with shattered limb like CD increaser, AOE morale snare, self punt with AOE snare, mass AOE knockback (kaboom) and much higher survivability (High armor, more avoidance)would you take squishy class with just raw damage outpoot? I mean every warband wanted 4 choppas just for chop fasta, not beacause of theyr damage.
Re: Patch Notes 06/02/2024
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 6:28 pm
by Qwack
This is a really good patch. Making essential abilities such as guard, rez, stealth and charge available at level 1 is excellent!
