Return of Reckoning

Everdin wrote: Sat Jul 29, 2023 11:01 am If chopper get id, put it on 10sec or remove chop fasta, nothing to discuss about this

Destro shouldn't get a compensation for a GTDC nerf. Look at all the good stuff destro already has: gits run away, zealots wind, maras broken pulls without the need of a pet, DoK with damage + snare aura, mSHs KABOOM and Outta My Way!, maras aoe knock down, BGs mega punt ....

Even without GTDC pulls, destro would still be superior in the crowd control department. It's not even close.

Destro does just fine against rampage.

Cannot say the same for Order. If numbers are even, destro melee blob stomps order in opeb wb v wb fights.

if you support removing gtdc but not ramp you support half of destro mains just straight up quitting

Also, can we get Choppa DPS nerfted by 1/3 please, so he is more balanced and more in the same line with other Destro melee DPS?
Thank you.

Andamarine wrote: Sat Jul 29, 2023 2:15 pm Also, can we get Choppa DPS nerfted by 1/3 please, so he is more balanced and more in the same line with other Destro melee DPS?
Thank you.

finally maras will be viable. thx u

tazdingo wrote: Sat Jul 29, 2023 12:13 pm if you support removing gtdc but not ramp you support half of destro mains just straight up quitting

would be good order tanks get self morale pump and high avoidance as destro has it.
pulls here works ''buged'' either side its wl pull u from corner (not line of sight) or maras and gtdc spamers (if previous gtdc spamers where pugs now all spam gtdc who have it , u need it or dont need it , choppas just spam it) if ppl will leave destro becaus eof removing gtdc its up to tham. its just mean their main purpose ingame is spaming gtdc. not big loose

Aethilmar wrote: Sat Jul 29, 2023 4:33 am

Sulorie wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 11:41 pm

Aethilmar wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 11:29 pm

Side note:
You can change the camera settings such that you no longer get the "spin" effect that happens with GTDC.

Where and how you do that?

It has been a while since I did it but I believe it is by unchecking "Smart Follow" under General -> Camera. Someone whispered it to me once after I complained about stupid Choppas and the camera spin killing me. Haven't had the problem since (camera spin ... Choppas still around ).

Well, I have this turned off by default and still it turns the camera around.

Andamarine wrote: Sat Jul 29, 2023 2:15 pm Also, can we get Choppa DPS nerfted by 1/3 please, so he is more balanced and more in the same line with other Destro melee DPS?
Thank you.

Their dmg is fine, don't just look at total dmg numbers, those are logically higher due to aoe.

Idk why ppl want everything to go away or change. Adapt l2p get better and overcome instead. Wasnt nearly this much crying on Live and everything and I do meen everything hit harder back then so

ravezaar wrote: Sat Jul 29, 2023 3:41 pm Idk why ppl want everything to go away or change. Adapt l2p get better and overcome instead. Wasnt nearly this much crying on Live and everything and I do meen everything hit harder back then so

order has been complaining about this issue for 15 years now.
Here's what happened:
OP and fellow order players get killed in pvp by some better experienced players playing Choppa/Destruction and then they come all the way crying to the forums to QQ because they lost.
This is a player skill issue, not an ability issue.
Git gud. There are ways to counter GTDC by placing guarded tanks up front with a coordinated warband.
I remember when I used to play order(eww) with a KOTBS that I would get pulled and I would still survive. It can crit dummies for around 1k but average players its roughly 700 damage and gives its target a free immunity to boot. Meh.

Here's a great historical gem from another anti-GTDC thread like 3 years ago that's still relevant here among others:

Wuhh wrote:
the recent spate of GTDC complaints isn't recent, it's an on going saga many of us on Destro find quite amusing. And i'm sure the Rampage posts give amusement for Order too.

All I ever read from the Devs is - all is working as intended and there are no changes planned.

Just live with it, or counter it; or runaway from every choppa you see, just incase they randomly pull you and reduce your green pixel bar to zero, making you push another arrangement of pixels to reconstitute your other pixels, into another place of pixel haven.

Sat Jul 04, 2020 10:23 am
viewtopic.php?t=39518

This isnt even posted in the right forum section (Balance).
GTDC isnt a stupid ability, its one of the most iconic abilities of the Choppa class just like Rampage is for slayers.

Mods, please lock this thread already from order trolls having a field day with this anti-Choppa circus.