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Re: Why initiative debuffs from WH bullets stack?
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 1:13 pm
by Gladiolix
Battlefield wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 12:48 pm
Gladiolix wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 12:47 pm
Character screen can't be trusted on any stats. Only .getstats gives you correct values the server actually uses for damage calculations. For example using bloodlord weapons have much more drastic reduction in your toughness in reality than your character screen tells you.
Show us your getstas in such situation....please
Nah I can't be bothered. If your initiave was actually reduced to 0, your chance to be critted would 100%. With ctbc reduction from futile strike and gear you tell you get -28% ctbc, you would still be critted 100% of the time as those WHs you fought with, I'm pretty sure have more than 28% crit chance.
Re: Why initiative debuffs from WH bullets stack?
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 1:14 pm
by Sulorie
Battlefield wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 12:48 pm
Gladiolix wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 12:47 pm
Character screen can't be trusted on any stats. Only .getstats gives you correct values the server actually uses for damage calculations. For example using bloodlord weapons have much more drastic reduction in your toughness in reality than your character screen tells you.
Show us your getstas in such situation....please
Find some ppl in your guild or friendlist, who hit you only once, to avoid targeting enemy player and use chat macro for getstats.
Or get hit by 2 WH, stagger them, clear target and hit macro key. With friends it will be easier.
Re: Why initiative debuffs from WH bullets stack?
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 2:00 pm
by Battlefield
Sulorie maybe you find some WH and come with him to test for getstats to me? AM has initiative debuff too and it should stack
Re: Why initiative debuffs from WH bullets stack?
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 3:04 pm
by Battlefield
or idea we need getstats addon

Re: Why initiative debuffs from WH bullets stack?
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 4:17 pm
by Fenris78
You can display at all time your getstat+char sheet with Statdoll addon.
Re: Why initiative debuffs from WH bullets stack?
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 4:40 pm
by Battlefield
Fenris78 wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 4:17 pm
You can display at all time your getstat+char sheet with Statdoll addon.
it shows everything with 0, so it's bugged this addon from 2017
Re: Why initiative debuffs from WH bullets stack?
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:40 pm
by Fenris78
https://tools.idrinth.de/addons/statdoll-remix/
It's working fine as of 2022, didnt test it recently though.
Re: Why initiative debuffs from WH bullets stack?
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 7:10 pm
by Battlefield
Installed exactly this version and chose getstats, what else? Checked twice and not works for me

Re: Why initiative debuffs from WH bullets stack?
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 7:43 pm
by Fenris78
Use mix of getstat + char sheet in the options, IIRC.
Otherwise it's maybe missing other dependencies, dunno...
Re: Why initiative debuffs from WH bullets stack?
Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2023 10:38 am
by Phantasm
I tested WH debuff stacking myself, these are results:
Getstats before any combat:
and video with one and then 2 WH init debuffs with getstats on each:
Click here to watch on YouTube