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Re: [AM/Shaman] Aoe detaunt too strong?

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2022 11:33 am
by NSKaneda
Kpi wrote: Tue Feb 15, 2022 11:32 am
Spoiler:
hriam123 wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 6:47 pm Why ranged dps spec have 2! detaunts, one of them AoE? All ranged dps in game have only 1 detaunt and he is single target. Why WP/DoK aoe detaunt requares tactic and nerfed to 5 sec then? AM/Shaman have 10 without tactics.
Don't forget Shamman have 3 Detaunts, not 2.

This autodetaunt tactic is the most OP tactic of the game, a shamman can scape from a full WB easily

Roll a shaman, see how "easy" it is.

Re: [AM/Shaman] Aoe detaunt too strong?

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2022 11:35 am
by Kpi
NSKaneda wrote: Tue Feb 15, 2022 11:33 am
Kpi wrote: Tue Feb 15, 2022 11:32 am
Spoiler:
hriam123 wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 6:47 pm Why ranged dps spec have 2! detaunts, one of them AoE? All ranged dps in game have only 1 detaunt and he is single target. Why WP/DoK aoe detaunt requares tactic and nerfed to 5 sec then? AM/Shaman have 10 without tactics.
Don't forget Shamman have 3 Detaunts, not 2.

This autodetaunt tactic is the most OP tactic of the game, a shamman can scape from a full WB easily

Roll a shaman, see how "easy" it is.
I have one, i know about i was talking

Re: [AM/Shaman] Aoe detaunt too strong?

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2022 11:55 am
by wachlarz
Kpi wrote: Tue Feb 15, 2022 11:32 am
hriam123 wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 6:47 pm Why ranged dps spec have 2! detaunts, one of them AoE? All ranged dps in game have only 1 detaunt and he is single target. Why WP/DoK aoe detaunt requares tactic and nerfed to 5 sec then? AM/Shaman have 10 without tactics.
Don't forget Shamman have 3 Detaunts, not 2.

This autodetaunt tactic is the most OP tactic of the game, a shamman can scape from a full WB easily
And full regen dwarf midget can tank 2 parties with no healers.

Re: [AM/Shaman] Aoe detaunt too strong?

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2022 12:24 pm
by nebelwerfer
dps sham's and AM's are and always have been hilariously strong and the fact that a realm champ mains these two classes and they remained so imba is not a good look

1) healer played as a dps should definetly not have a short cooldown on cleanse and the ability to cleanse other people

2) they should not be able to rez as good( or even better) than healspecs

3) they should not have access to healer exclusive morales like m1 1800 hp, m3 group bubble

these points apply to dps healers in general, dok and wp included, but am / sham has a unique mechanic that makes their clease / rez more effective when they do their damage abilities..

And yeah as OP says having access to two detaunts that are both extremely powerful is just icing on the cake of a godlike class. I'm happy they discovered just how imba blinding lights used to be, and managed to deal with it. It sure took them a while though so keep on pressing the issues, these changes won't come on their own :roll:

Re: [AM/Shaman] Aoe detaunt too strong?

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2022 1:12 pm
by Sulorie
Kpi wrote: Tue Feb 15, 2022 11:32 am

Don't forget Shamman have 3 Detaunts, not 2.

This autodetaunt tactic is the most OP tactic of the game, a shamman can scape from a full WB easily
How about you blame the warband and no additional 12,5% DMG reduction on a target you already detaunted with a detaunt ability?

Re: [AM/Shaman] Aoe detaunt too strong?

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2022 2:28 pm
by normanis
shaman has beter tools to survuve than am. am is squshiest healer ingame.
p.s was in city with pugs vs am healers (they where only healers) and we win.

Re: [AM/Shaman] Aoe detaunt too strong?

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2022 2:47 pm
by Kpi
normanis wrote: Tue Feb 15, 2022 2:28 pm shaman has beter tools to survuve than am. am is squshiest healer ingame.
p.s was in city with pugs vs am healers (they where only healers) and we win.
And don't forget about a shaman is small, green with dark clothes, he can hide easy in a lot of places. And AM is tall, with bright colours so it is not possible hide in any place.

try to find a shaman in a city, it is very hard find them :cry:

Re: [AM/Shaman] Aoe detaunt too strong?

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2022 2:58 pm
by Sulorie
Kpi wrote: Tue Feb 15, 2022 2:47 pm

And don't forget about a shaman is small, green with dark clothes, he can hide easy in a lot of places. And AM is tall, with bright colours so it is not possible hide in any place.

try to find a shaman in a city, it is very hard find them :cry:
Look for red boots.

Btw, if you are not role-playing, you can pick any color you like, so only the size argument remains, which is mirrored to order with midgets.

Re: [AM/Shaman] Aoe detaunt too strong?

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2022 6:41 pm
by Paxsanarion
Hardest class to stay alive on in open RVR in my experience....they dont need any nerfs :-)

Re: [AM/Shaman] Aoe detaunt too strong?

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2022 9:58 pm
by Przepraszam
Paxsanarion wrote: Tue Feb 15, 2022 6:41 pm Hardest class to stay alive on in open RVR in my experience....they dont need any nerfs :-)
Are we playing the same game???