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Re: Poll: SH healdebuff on level 21

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 12:48 pm
by xyeppp
Carotte wrote:Loooool stop make stupid topic ! You r already so cheated attack trow the door pet bugged and you need your healdebuff at lvl 21 !? So give the Sigmar Hammer for the WP or an **** selfheal for the white lion balance like mara ! Damn just be patient for the next pool lvl that all . You dont ask that on live game so play like the live WAR .
The point of the healdebuff isn't for SHs only, but for the whole realm.

I'd agree with this temporarily if you really plan on getting the lvl 21 soon. If not, I think it'd be better to just wait and implement either 25 or straight up 30.

Re: Poll: SH healdebuff on level 21

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 12:50 pm
by noisestorm
People on the Forum lately really are all a bunch of egocentric plebs with no common sense at all it seems

Re: Poll: SH healdebuff on level 21

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 1:06 pm
by Morf
To all you ppl who just post in here to vent frustration about any change that may or may not be made, understand the issue and realise why it warrants a discussion before whining.

Sw's at rank 21 get access to there spamable heal debuff so it would make sense for realm balance to allow sh's to have access and if not then be ready for even more cheat accusations from order noobs as sh's get increased speed with run away.

Re: Poll: SH healdebuff on level 21

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 1:14 pm
by Telen
Herder arent the SW mirror. They dont have one.

SW get debuff at 21
WL gets debuff at 29
Mara gets debuff at 12
SH gets debuff at 25

So Des get the debuffs earlier in this quasi mirrors

Re: Poll: SH healdebuff on level 21

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 1:17 pm
by xyeppp
Telen wrote:Herder arent the SW mirror. They dont have one.

SW get debuff at 21
WL gets debuff at 29
Mara gets debuff at 12
SH gets debuff at 25

So Des get the debuffs earlier in this quasi mirrors
A 25% heal debuff on close range, word.
SH are the closest to mirror the SW in that both are ranged, unless a stance dance automatically means exact mirror.

Spammable range 50% debuff vs none or a close-range-have-got-to-get-melee-range-without-dying meawhile-getting-healdebuffed-from-range in the process of running towards order and dying. Hm.

Re: Poll: SH healdebuff on level 21

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 1:18 pm
by Telen
xyeppp wrote:
A 25% heal debuff on close range, word.
SH are the closest to mirror the SW in that both are ranged, unless a stance dance automatically means exact mirror.

Spammable range 50% debuff vs none or a close-range-have-got-to-get-melee-range-without-dying meawhile getting healdebuffed from range in the process of running towards order and dying. Hm.
War doesnt have mirrors you balance over a faction not a class.
You would need to bring the wl debuff down to keep balance.

Re: Poll: SH healdebuff on level 21

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 1:20 pm
by Morf
Telen wrote:Herder arent the SW mirror. They dont have one.

SW get debuff at 21
WL gets debuff at 29
Mara gets debuff at 12
SH gets debuff at 25

So Des get the debuffs earlier in this quasi mirrors

They are not DIRECT mirrors but alot of there skills are the same or similar like a spamable heal debuff.
Common sense goes a long way.

Re: Poll: SH healdebuff on level 21

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 1:22 pm
by Telen
War doesn't have mirrors. Do I need to repeat myself.
You balance the factions. This was explained in 2007 in dev videos.

Re: Poll: SH healdebuff on level 21

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 1:24 pm
by xyeppp
Telen wrote:
xyeppp wrote:
A 25% heal debuff on close range, word.
SH are the closest to mirror the SW in that both are ranged, unless a stance dance automatically means exact mirror.

Spammable range 50% debuff vs none or a close-range-have-got-to-get-melee-range-without-dying meawhile getting healdebuffed from range in the process of running towards order and dying. Hm.
War doesnt have mirrors you balance over a faction not a class.
You would need to bring the wl debuff down to keep balance.
So you'd have three 50% debuffs, and we would have 1?
BWs also get one at 21.
Is that how you balance the factions? That's why I'd rather wait and get 30 implemented straight up, so nobody feels hurt, ignored or mistreated.

A KoTBS is a mirror of the Chosen in a way - they don't have the exact 100% same abilities but come on man, we both know they're a mirror.

Re: Poll: SH healdebuff on level 21

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 1:26 pm
by Tesq
I think it's the same for me, i voted no cos i think atm there are no unbalance concern related to skills while indeed it's more a gear related matter , also with lag is not easy look to which class is better or if a realm have and edge over the other but i play very little atm so ....

I will be more pleased if dev atm would spent 100% of their time dedicated to war fix lag/ partys / hero-champ damage / hero-champ walk away from keep. (keep loot can wait)

I think before move to t3 these are top priority