Return of Reckoning

hmm does Sorc have: knockdown ? healdebuff? selfclense ? armor buff ? U wanna have same dmg and way better utility on BW ?

Destro has a bunch of such "hidden" advantages. It's just part of the RoR experience.

I feel like it’s an unintended bug that has recently popped up, given the sudden reemergence of “omfg sorc is op” postings.

If it’s a bug, fix it. If it’s intended (which I highly doubt), mirror it.
Sorc burst rotation is still one, if not the most telegraphed and easily avoidable rotations in the game. BWs who want to try their hands at the BB/SB combo will face the exact same issue.
The only difference is that when the BW gets tired of having their whole rotation nullified, they can switch to their functioning DD tree, Sorcs can’t since they don’t have one.

Btw dont forget how fast they can patch something when order have more wins than destro, like Forts and the only place our gimp range classes could shine. How many patches it got in 2 weeks? 3?

billyk wrote: Wed Jul 14, 2021 11:05 am Destro has a bunch of such "hidden" advantages. It's just part of the RoR experience.

Shaman detaunt with free +5% disrupt + intel stealing base to ensure max survivability, WE' with 2 skills (one base, one middle tree) for debuffing / buffing 100+ stats when WH doesnt have equivalence (yeah armor debuff will never worth mobility+burst of the WE), SH with 2 base charge/flee skills (with non-interruptible one), Chosen +25% parry (20s for 15s cd, ofc) when SM one is 5s... the list can go on and on (now with maximum OPness on magical debuffs that are stacking for Destru but not for Order).

But you know... rampage is OP... :/

Wanna trade rampage against decent hidden advantages + viable mdps classes Order side ; deal ?

Simply put it on bug tracker where it belongs.

BW tears and self pity are becoming a bit much.

Bozzax wrote: Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:52 pm Simply put it on bug tracker where it belongs.

BW tears and self pity are becoming a bit much.

It has been on the bug tracker since May. Look a few post back. If anything this thread just confirms all those sorc whines because something is not working as it should. Which gives a class an extra 20% damage where targets will have almost 0 resist if they are soft capped.

Fenris78 wrote: Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:28 pm Shaman detaunt with free +5% disrupt + intel stealing base to ensure max survivability, WE' with 2 skills (one base, one middle tree) for debuffing / buffing 100+ stats when WH doesnt have equivalence (yeah armor debuff will never worth mobility+burst of the WE), SH with 2 base charge/flee skills (with non-interruptible one), Chosen +25% parry (20s for 15s cd, ofc) when SM one is 5s... the list can go on and on (now with maximum OPness on magical debuffs that are stacking for Destru but not for Order).

But you know... rampage is OP... :/

- 5% disrupt advantage? kind of joke or?.
- how exactly does intel stealing improves survivability?
- left tree, not middle, the place where Repel Blasphemy is.
- these two "debuffing / buffing 100+ stats" are exactly the same as triumphant 4th piece bonus, which is now bis, you know, and they do not stack,
- the one is not base and requires squig armor (so you cant shoot), the other one is only 30%, - regular snare has 40% movement speed reduction.
- Suppression has 10 sec cd and 15 sec uptime, EF has no cd and 5 sec uptime.

Please be accurate when qqing

Fenris78 wrote: Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:28 pmWanna trade rampage against decent hidden advantages + viable mdps classes Order side ; deal ?

yes please, any day of the week xd

wonshot wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 4:47 pm Granted how the Brightwizard leaderboard is looking so far from season2. I wonder if this potentially unintented "bug" is what is holding BW back compared to Sorcs who seem to fare better in soloqueue enviroment.

Even if BW had his Ignition reducing all 3 types of resistance, and even if it would stack with everything order realm has, it wont push BW any further in ranking until double choppa meta comes on scene xd

I guess more people are starting to realize that "BW > Sorc" and "BW raw dmg advantage" is nothing more than a meme.