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Re: Dual weaps or 2 hander for WL?

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 2:48 pm
by wender88
DW'ing melee SW would look sooooooo badass!

Re: Dual weaps or 2 hander for WL?

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 2:52 pm
by xyeppp
rubat wrote:DW for everyone!!!
By the way, WH could get some DW swords too. And as said before melee DW SW would be really interesting to test. And an engineer with dual pistols would simply look awesome!
That's great that the devs let different classes test new mechanics. Makes the game even funnier.
I just wouldn't want to see rushed changes without testing, unless this is the test. Simply letting somebody be able to do something in a RvR game costs everybody something. A change on one class affects every single class that plays vs them. Suddenly WLs shred BGs.

I play destro as well and it doesn't bother me too, but generally speaking from a fair position to all other classes, changes like this may not be liked by others leading to crying and whine (which of course isn't to be listened to 100%, but there's always a grain of truth in there).

What does bother me as destro, however, is that some **** keeps on killing the Auctioneers in Inevitable City by pulling the champs - can somebody please, please, please for the love of Tzeentch remove them or something? It's not fun not having an AH for 3 hours. Why would you do that? Unless you get off on griefing, then oh well.

Re: Dual weaps or 2 hander for WL?

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 3:20 pm
by mickeye
xyeppp wrote: A change on one class that suddenly does more DPS (just for example, not saying this is the case 100% because I really don't know the stats on those weapons) affects every single class that plays vs them, maybe give them some new skills or something as means to escape or counter in a way? Suddenly WLs shred BGs with ease.
You can check stats just by looking on armory. Ie
http://www.returnofreckoning.com/armory ... e=Undbecks
http://www.returnofreckoning.com/armory ... nnkerbelll
http://www.returnofreckoning.com/armory ... e=Yvlandir
vs
http://www.returnofreckoning.com/armory ... e=Khorhall
http://www.returnofreckoning.com/armory ... name=Lanes
http://www.returnofreckoning.com/armory ... e=Bluddcat

Don't think this "bug" is that big of a problem. For example bugged 2h for Choppas is worse in my opinion. In live version, WL couldn't dual wield weapons but there was quite a lot of WL 1handers.
And yeah, everyone knows dualwield>2hander, so that's why WLs choose those. I didn't leveled my WL yet, but I might give it a try now. ;)

Re: Dual weaps or 2 hander for WL?

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 3:22 pm
by xyeppp
mickeye wrote: You can check stats just by looking on armory. Ie

Don't think this "bug" is that big of a problem. For example bugged 2h for Choppas is worse in my opinion. In live version, WL couldn't dual wield weapons but there was quite a lot of WL 1handers.
And yeah, everyone knows dualwield>2hander, so that's why WLs choose those. I didn't leveled my WL yet, but I might give it a try now. ;)
Oh yea ofc the 2h choppas were a bug, so is the +52 mara axe in my opinion which should've been a chosen 2hander but that's just my 2 cents. I'm sure there are weapons like that on order as well - I didn't bother searching through every white lion, sorry :P
"everyone knows dualwield>2hander" just kind of adds to my point though, suddenly WLs will be the new slayers :D

Re: Dual weaps or 2 hander for WL?

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 3:24 pm
by Jayzboi
God you guys are a bunch of F...... wankers. Jesus!

I am asking if it is good or not, i am not asking for a forum war. Why is it people have to start a fight in every god damn topic?

And i got my question answered. So if a dev could delete topic, i would be very happy :)

Re: Dual weaps or 2 hander for WL?

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 3:25 pm
by xyeppp
Jayzboi wrote:God you guys are a bunch of F...... wankers. Jesus!

I am asking if it is good or not, i am not asking for a forum war. Why is it people have to start a fight in every god damn topic?
Yo everybody is chill around here with noone fighting, why u stir up drama.

[I seen that get laid :(]

Re: Dual weaps or 2 hander for WL?

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 3:26 pm
by Jayzboi
xyeppp wrote:
Jayzboi wrote:God you guys are a bunch of F...... wankers. Jesus!

I am asking if it is good or not, i am not asking for a forum war. Why is it people have to start a fight in every god damn topic?
Yo everybody is chill around here with noone fighting, why u stir up drama.

[I seen that get laid :(]
:roll: :roll:

Re: Dual weaps or 2 hander for WL?

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 3:27 pm
by xyeppp
Jayzboi wrote: :roll: :roll:
:D

Re: Dual weaps or 2 hander for WL?

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 3:27 pm
by Azarael
I noticed hatchets were in the drop tables, so implemented them as one-handers capable of being dual wielded as that made more sense. I'm not sure where the additional WL DPS or power against Blackguards is coming from. Unless dual wield is literally Godlike, I'd be more inclined to say that any displays of power are coming from the pet dealing high damage.

I dunno, I just didn't expect it to end up being a major problem for anyone. If I had seen exotic weapons in the tables for other classes, I would have incorporated them if possible.

As for why most WLs are using dual wield, it's pretty obvious - it's because the two-hander intrinsic bonus (10% block strikethrough) is ridiculous, because no MDPS bothers to attack a tank anyway, and if they HAVE to, they don't do so from the front. 10% parry is better.

Re: Dual weaps or 2 hander for WL?

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 3:29 pm
by xyeppp
Azarael wrote:I'm not sure where the additional WL DPS or power against Blackguards is coming from.
I don't know if this is true even man, I just went by the cry of two BGs in the chat who said they got destroyed by a dual wielding WL. Maybe they just suck and needed to vent out - don't take that as 100% truth ;)