Return of Reckoning

vindicuss wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 6:40 am 1. To make players want to play as SnB and increase the quantity of players playing as Tanks in every aspect of the game.
2. To fix the problem about the lack of tanks in Scenarios and the lack of SnB tanks in Forts / City / oRvR.
3. Limiting skills is boring.
4. Because for the fun of it.

2H tanks has already been nerfed hard in both damage and survivability, going 2h outside sc and solo/party roam is already very niche (or yolo).
The 2h nerfs are probably more the reason for fewer people playing tanks.. not that SnB is not doing enough damage.

I'm all for removing restrictions and instead adding bonuses for the intended setup (2h/SnB), but if you want to remove restrictions, remove it from all the "requires shield/block" skills instead of/as well as.

does HtL 15% dmg reduction stack with guard ?

adapter wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:22 am Well, black orc used to have THC as SnB and was so good, i never understood why they nerfed it so hard. So, yes, would be great to have THC / Ether Dance as SnB, i would definetly play my black orc more.

Its shame that THC is strict to 2h only because THC was only option for SnB BO to deal some OK assist damage. While offensive SnB SM can still put some impresive damage for a SnB tank thanks to tactic procs, spirit damage, spirit debuff and Dazling strike spam, BO has no such option anymore.
Even removing 2h strict from those skills, 2h will still have its use because of 2h tactics, higher damage and other skills tied to 2h only.

Duukar wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:54 am

detrap wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:47 am

Duukar wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:42 am I think this is a great idea. I would shelf my 2H build for sure.

So many bad moves with guard nerfing and closing off things like You Wot from SnB builds.

You can't use You Wot with a shield?

You can but it’s a meme.

I wouldn't say that, great to use in pug warbands in funnels and blocking up that postern door.

You wanna know the real fix?

Let tanks use a 2h and Shield AT THE SAME TIME like Max Hayman does on his like 36 KOTBS.

Sponn wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:11 pm You wanna know the real fix?

Let tanks use a 2h and Shield AT THE SAME TIME like Max Hayman does on his like 36 KOTBS.

Screw that, SM with dual whielding 2h weapons and diablo 2 like whirl wind ^^

balvor877 wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:42 pm

Sponn wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:11 pm You wanna know the real fix?

Let tanks use a 2h and Shield AT THE SAME TIME like Max Hayman does on his like 36 KOTBS.

Screw that, SM with dual whielding 2h weapons and diablo 2 like whirl wind ^^

I could def see BO dual wielding 2handers

if anything 2h tanks need a buff to parry all guard damage again

Ok so we're all in agreement then.

Buff 2H tanks, and get rid of this hoity toity "shield" business.

balvor877 wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:28 am As long there are no real tank counter classes

MMm i wonder if there are any class who can bypass mostly of the defensive tools....