Return of Reckoning

this is comical af dok is the easiest class in game to kite and hence **** on if its shield they need their whole 6 man built around them for arpen and cc JUST so they can heal

dok has no gap closer no reliable snare outside of melee cleanse that NEVER dispels what you want and 1 root break

you are just a bad player that sent your lion to attack a shield dok giving it the absolute BEST target that it could hope for life tap heals

you want to beat a shield dok team learn to punt then cc the dok youll win every time

mJDK performs very well against WL and slayer but very bad against WH and all range classes. Nothing suspicious here. Its just the design and not a op ability.
What I never understood is why self heal attack abilitys in this case "rend soul" is not effected by a healdebuff.

mekal wrote: ↑Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:56 pm this is comical af dok is the easiest class in game to kite and hence **** on if its shield they need their whole 6 man built around them for arpen and cc JUST so they can heal

dok has no gap closer no reliable snare outside of melee cleanse that NEVER dispels what you want and 1 root break

you are just a bad player that sent your lion to attack a shield dok giving it the absolute BEST target that it could hope for life tap heals

you want to beat a shield dok team learn to punt then cc the dok youll win every time

Yeah, I am such a bad player, I will make sure to punt those doks on my WL!!! once they add the ability ofc

Example:
T4 Sc event, destro runs in their blobs with those doks, my job as a WL is to DPS the minute I pounce on someone the doks see the pet as their bloody vampiric prey, and there it goes.

But I already answered it, might be bad gear + bad setup, what kind of SC setup works against them?
Having 1 ranged dps, and what 1 melee dps? slayer?, dok can outheal slayer's DPS I think. WL?
WL can only counter them by pouncing at the right moment for a brief moment and back out immediately, so who does the pressure then?
ranged DPS? but Destro has the MSH that will pounce and close the gaps, so who does the pressure?

Please elaborate

Ask your tanks to perma snare DoKs and punt them away from combat, so they can't life tap?

knick wrote: ↑Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:10 pm What I never understood is why self heal attack abilitys in this case "rend soul" is not effected by a healdebuff.

Yeah, its only affected by: parry, dodge, block, dmg mitigation and every dmg debuff...what a shame that isnt affected by healdebuffs.

From my experience melee healers get shut down quite often. Not by melee dps, but by tanks and ranged DPS.

ByzantineTime wrote: ↑Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:36 pm

mekal wrote: ↑Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:56 pm this is comical af dok is the easiest class in game to kite and hence **** on if its shield they need their whole 6 man built around them for arpen and cc JUST so they can heal

dok has no gap closer no reliable snare outside of melee cleanse that NEVER dispels what you want and 1 root break

you are just a bad player that sent your lion to attack a shield dok giving it the absolute BEST target that it could hope for life tap heals

you want to beat a shield dok team learn to punt then cc the dok youll win every time

Yeah, I am such a bad player, I will make sure to punt those doks on my WL!!! once they add the ability ofc

You said that was playing in a premade grp, your tanks have to do that job.

If the shield DoK is using empowered transfer tactic, as WL you're really disadvantaged, except if going loner.

If the WL has won the fight that would mean WL really OP and unbalanced class or DoK afk

ByzantineTime wrote: ↑Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:36 pm Yeah, I am such a bad player, I will make sure to punt those doks on my WL!!! once they add the ability ofc

Example:
T4 Sc event, destro runs in their blobs with those doks, my job as a WL is to DPS the minute I pounce on someone the doks see the pet as their bloody vampiric prey, and there it goes.

But I already answered it, might be bad gear + bad setup, what kind of SC setup works against them?
Having 1 ranged dps, and what 1 melee dps? slayer?, dok can outheal slayer's DPS I think. WL?
WL can only counter them by pouncing at the right moment for a brief moment and back out immediately, so who does the pressure then?
ranged DPS? but Destro has the MSH that will pounce and close the gaps, so who does the pressure?

Please elaborate

sounds to me like youre getting tunnel vision focusing on dok just because its a healer hint you dont always and most of the time should not be focusing down healers

the absolute best way to shut down a shield dok is just push it away and ignore it you said yourself that you play in a 6 man premade your tanks or even ranged dps can KB/KD the dok you can also have someone disarm it hell even snare and rotate away this is 100% a L2P issue

and again stop setting lion on fire and forget if you want to be actually useful you need to manually control use kd yourself and save your team