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Re: Petition RR cap == level cap

Posted: Sat May 23, 2015 2:42 pm
by Morf
Having the old system like Bozzax suggested would help stop the renown, renown, more renown leech mode the game turned into which can only be positive and would also push players towards pve which isnt a bad thing even tho like myself im not the biggest fan of pve.

Re: Petition RR cap == level cap

Posted: Sat May 23, 2015 3:15 pm
by Bozzax
Sulorie wrote: I doubt you learn anything, when you had trouble with low level chars in T3. :roll:
Invader set has slightly more stats than Conq and is not the best choice for all classes. Adding bolster gives r31 chars more stats.
I wish you would have a clue what you are talking about. All you see are evil twinks everywhere with bugged lotd weapons.


As you are telling all, that low rank chars are punished by high lvl twinks, I assume you want to level up faster to be competitive. This needs XP.
I'll give you hint as you obviously don't know .. Those are T4 sets I tried to be super informative and even list org sets and tiers please go back and read that post

Re: Petition RR cap == level cap

Posted: Sat May 23, 2015 3:26 pm
by Tesq
Morf wrote:Having the old system like Bozzax suggested would help stop the renown, renown, more renown leech mode the game turned into which can only be positive and would also push players towards pve which isnt a bad thing even tho like myself im not the biggest fan of pve.
It's half true only, it would help that until t3. Still 40 renow level difference are too much when entering in t4, 30 would be better.


Sulorie wrote:
Bozzax wrote:
Sulorie wrote:What are you doing, when 31/31 with bolster are killing your r39 chars?
So you assume bolster have to be implemented so a 31/31 are stronger then a 39?

PS I'd respawn and try learn something from it
I doubt you learn anything, when you had trouble with low level chars in T3. :roll:
Invader set has slightly more stats than Conq and is not the best choice for all classes. Adding bolster gives r31 chars more stats.
I wish you would have a clue what you are talking about. All you see are evil twinks everywhere with bugged lotd weapons.


As you are telling all, that low rank chars are punished by high lvl twinks, I assume you want to level up faster to be competitive. This needs XP.
problem aren't sets, were those 30+ renow level that are a lot for t3 desgined fight.
The old renow system was progressive, unlock think by spending point first in primary stats.
When you are able to spent all point freely 30 renow level are a lot that's why make ppl able to have 2x renow with no xp book and give more exp could just prevent both ppl farm pugs on lower tiers and even the t4 gap.

Re: Petition RR cap == level cap

Posted: Sat May 23, 2015 3:34 pm
by drmordread
Gorwe wrote:Funny.

If you cut out T4 nobody would notice. It is a big zerg-o-rama anyhow without any rhyme and reason. T1-T3 = the best!
riiiighhtttt..... that is why most players were in t4 during the 5 years i played.

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I will never understand the desire for low level toons to be equal in dps, healing, armor and everything to a high level toon.

If you want the high level bonuses and armor and weapons it is simple really. PLAY THE GAME. Stop trying to get the devs to give it to you.
So you die a few hundred times. ITS IS A GAME, there is a respawn button. Learn from your mistakes and go out there and kill someone :)

Re: Petition RR cap == level cap

Posted: Sat May 23, 2015 3:52 pm
by Sulorie
Bozzax wrote: I'll give you hint as you obviously don't know .. Those are T4 sets I tried to be super informative and even list org sets and tiers please go back and read that post
Those were no T4 sets for the last year of WAR or even longer. So what you are talking here? The old tier brackets work, when rr60 is max. The new Sov set alone is too strong compared with previous armor sets. The new tier structure was needed to reduce the power gap in T4.

Re: Petition RR cap == level cap

Posted: Sat May 23, 2015 4:23 pm
by Bozzax
Sulorie wrote:
Bozzax wrote: I'll give you hint as you obviously don't know .. Those are T4 sets I tried to be super informative and even list org sets and tiers please go back and read that post
Those were no T4 sets for the last year of WAR or even longer. So what you are talking here? The old tier brackets work, when rr60 is max. The new Sov set alone is too strong compared with previous armor sets. The new tier structure was needed to reduce the power gap in T4.
Maybe you should read the posts I write before you answer

Original style
Bozzax wrote:Tier 1 (cap 11/11)
Decimator, Carnage

Tier 2 12 -21 (cap 21/21)
Obliterator, Havoc, Kepper’s

Tier 3 22-31 (cap 31/31)
Devastator, Mayhem, Redeye

Tier 4 32+
Ruin, Annihilator, Conq, Invader, Warlord, Sovereign, Bloodlord, sent, Dark, Tyrant

Re: Petition RR cap == level cap

Posted: Sat May 23, 2015 4:27 pm
by Bozzax
The whole point was to use what worked best
1. Make tier 4 32+ and get as many as possible doing RvR
2. Cap RR = level up to 32
3. Xp off book for questers and role-players

31/31 twinks is no problem as they fight with no advantage. If anyone wants to remain in tier 3 for ever I have no problem with it

Re: Petition RR cap == level cap

Posted: Sat May 23, 2015 4:30 pm
by Bozzax
There is only one reason to have XP off books and no rr cap > To get an unfair advantage over other players feel good about yourself and think "yes that must be skill"

Re: Petition RR cap == level cap

Posted: Sat May 23, 2015 4:31 pm
by Marley
1. Get the server up and running.
2. Look at improvements.
3. I think the devs got this one.

Re: Petition RR cap == level cap

Posted: Sat May 23, 2015 5:20 pm
by Sulorie
Bozzax wrote:There is only one reason to have XP off books and no rr cap > To get an unfair advantage over other players feel good about yourself and think "yes that must be skill"
This kind of advantage you have with Sovereign against Annihilator? Oh man, I would laugh if it wouldn't be so sad.