Can we give SW some form of self sustain?

[Pandastyle]

I completely agree. I wouldn't ask for, say, pounce, because the squig herder has pounce, so I want pounce too.
The issue is completely different here, I'm afraid:
It's not A have B, so I want B.

Spoiler:

No.
It's A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, J, K , L … (I REPEAT, EVERY OTHER CLASS EXCEPT FOR SW) have self heal or/and absorb, SO I WANT SELF HEAL OR/AND ABSORB.



I'll quote myself:

But you have a "pounce" in form of the teleport no? Mara didnt get anything like that :< So if aSW gets also a self-sustain or heal, I want a pounce/teleport
oh and btw maybe reduce the cd of the 25% dmg ability to 30secs and get it out of skilltree to match the SW

msquig have kaboom , shadowstep,punce, also self punt away ( if u play properly) + speed if pet taunts and racial speed no ather class has so many escape tools.
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And I never said anything about or know a thing about squig and ofc the amount the squig has many consider too much, but as I said I dont know much about them. I am just a marauder and I see WL/aSW with "pounce"/pull (which actually functions as it seems) and ST KD on demand and so on and so on and I feel left out but Mara is in a good spot atm pls dont take me too serious Maybe balance should be around the 4 classes WL/mara/SW/SH like two of them get a functioning pull (per faction) and the two other get the pounce (per faction) and ofc give the SW some more love

//edit: This thread is about the self sustain of aSW, so maybe we stop disussion about pounce/pull now

[Foofmonger]

I mean giving SWs a stance locked low amount of healing (something like the Marauder proc) as long as it's done properly and balanced, would be perfectly fine. Is it important/needed? No not really.

That doesn't mean that the class needs it though, this would be a minor QOL change to potentially make the SW more aligned to the Mara. However, I would also like shadowstep on the Mara if that's the case.

-My biased Mara opinion.

[Celyt]

If I'm not mistaken, the shadow warrior class doesn't posses any tactic nor ability that provides sustain in the form of self heal or absorb. Not even a morale.

Yes, assault stance doubles item armor contribution. That is nice (and much needed for any melee class that can't turn to stealth to avoid the frontline butchery), but there are more classes that can boost their armor noticeably, even classes that don't need to get in melee range.

Let's compare situation with SW's "mirrors", which, in the crossed mirrors situation of this game, would be marauder and squig herder. Both mirror classes have access to sustain stuff that provide self heal (plus absorb tactic for mara, autodetaunt and speed procs tactics for herder)
So. BOTH SW'S MIRRORED CLASSES HAVE SUSTAIN STUFF. OK.

Let's compare with other dps classes, off the top of my head:
Engy: keg
Magus: aegis and absorb racial tactic (and one 50% heal tactic on an ability)
BW: % heal tactic on some ability I forget (shitty maybe but there it is), absorb racial tactic.
Sorc: Absorb vitality DoT
Slayer and Choppa: Rune of Absorption, choppa mirrored ability, and some other slayer shite regen tactic I dimly recall.
WL: regen tactic tied to trained to kill iirc
WH/WE: kisses heal tactic, absorb tactics

The gap widens. EVERY OTHER DPS CLASS HAS SUSTAIN STUFF.

Let's compare with other classes apart from the dps classes

Tanks: self heal, absorb galore, you name it (understandably)
Healers: obviously...

OMG
EVERY OTHER CLASS IN THE GAME HAS SUSTAIN STUFF.

If any patches are coming in the future to improve the performance of the Shadow Warrior, a class which many would agree (even in destro game chat) in considering the worst performing class in the game right now, it would be really nice if some form of self sustain, however puny (preferably not taking up a tactic slot) were added to the SW's arsenal.What do you guys think?

I know I know, some minor self heal or absorb thing won't solve the SW problems. The problems with SW are other things, and we all know what they are, the devs know, everybody knows, and I'm sure in time things will improve. But this thing about sustain is like a matter of justice, of equality, and I love tinkering with the self sustain features of the classes. All I know is my little hooded lanky wannabe brawler would be most grateful.

You made milk come out of my nose. Best post EU 12/10

[havartii]

SW gets ranged knock down, so we need every other class to get that to be equal , sounds silly right?

[amagawd]

Just so you sleep easy at night, Mara 1k heal over 5 seconds can't sustain any 1v1.