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Re: RANKED SC (Solo and 6man) experiences, opinions

Post#21 » Wed May 13, 2020 4:34 pm

doky wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 4:27 pm
thedonkeykong332 wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 4:21 pm
Telen wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 3:28 pm
You know dps doesnt mean damage right? I top damage charts I have quite low dps.
How can you have low dps if you top damage charts?
When I said top I meant I'm number #1 most of the times.

even if you have a spell that does 300k damage after 6 mins only, you still rock the dps chart because u dealt 300k damage in a sec brah. lets say we divide 300k / 360 = 833 dps, but i'm going out of context here since there isn't such spell in ROR.

shaman dps = sustainable damage from dots + brain busta bunch of waaagh burst with tactic = amazing damage. whether you are being super focused in a ranked match, you still deal damage, if you have space your damage is doubled simple.
Its about killing and not scoreboard numbers, I second Telen's thoughts
If you are dealing high damage and putting huge amount of pressure why wouldn't you go get a kill? in dominating games sometimes I get 5 KBS. even games less 3-4 etc. hard games can be about 1-2 kills.
I have a feeling people talk out of their arses here pardon my french, but if you have no clue about the class you shouldn't talk really.

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Re: RANKED SC (Solo and 6man) experiences, opinions

Post#22 » Wed May 13, 2020 4:41 pm

Asherdoom wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 4:03 pm they plain ignore party and run toward you no need to pounce. They know ranged in sc are easy kill and without even root you simply implode. Play it yourself is easy to write "LOS OMG NOOB" in forum, i wait your stream as ranged dps (sorc/bw) in ranked to see if your theorycraft works
I didn't say it was easy, and no matter how you feel about it thats just how it is

In 1 melee 1 rdps setup your two tanks and melee should sit on that WL's face and have them permanently snared so there's absolutely no way for them to "just run toward you" without burning cooldowns and getting punished, provided you keep your distance and don't just walk into them.
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Re: RANKED SC (Solo and 6man) experiences, opinions

Post#23 » Wed May 13, 2020 4:56 pm

thedonkeykong332 wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 4:34 pm
doky wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 4:27 pm
thedonkeykong332 wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 4:21 pm

How can you have low dps if you top damage charts?
When I said top I meant I'm number #1 most of the times.

even if you have a spell that does 300k damage after 6 mins only, you still rock the dps chart because u dealt 300k damage in a sec brah. lets say we divide 300k / 360 = 833 dps, but i'm going out of context here since there isn't such spell in ROR.

shaman dps = sustainable damage from dots + brain busta bunch of waaagh burst with tactic = amazing damage. whether you are being super focused in a ranked match, you still deal damage, if you have space your damage is doubled simple.
Its about killing and not scoreboard numbers, I second Telen's thoughts
If you are dealing high damage and putting huge amount of pressure why wouldn't you go get a kill? in dominating games sometimes I get 5 KBS. even games less 3-4 etc. hard games can be about 1-2 kills.
I have a feeling people talk out of their arses here pardon my french, but if you have no clue about the class you shouldn't talk really.
If you have such feeling go look in the mirror, people think of other people exactly what they are.

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Re: RANKED SC (Solo and 6man) experiences, opinions

Post#24 » Wed May 13, 2020 5:03 pm

doky wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 4:56 pm
thedonkeykong332 wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 4:34 pm
doky wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 4:27 pm

Its about killing and not scoreboard numbers, I second Telen's thoughts
If you are dealing high damage and putting huge amount of pressure why wouldn't you go get a kill? in dominating games sometimes I get 5 KBS. even games less 3-4 etc. hard games can be about 1-2 kills.
I have a feeling people talk out of their arses here pardon my french, but if you have no clue about the class you shouldn't talk really.
If you have such feeling go look in the mirror, people think of other people exactly what they are.
Amazes me how you decided to take your cluelessness so personally :D

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Re: RANKED SC (Solo and 6man) experiences, opinions

Post#25 » Wed May 13, 2020 5:05 pm

thedonkeykong332 wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 4:21 pm How can you have low dps if you top damage charts?
When I said top I meant I'm number #1 most of the times.

even if you have a spell that does 300k damage after 6 mins only, you still rock the dps chart because u dealt 300k damage in a sec brah. lets say we divide 300k / 360 = 833 dps, but i'm going out of context here since there isn't such spell in ROR.

shaman dps = sustainable damage from dots + brain busta bunch of waaagh burst with tactic = amazing damage. whether you are being super focused in a ranked match, you still deal damage, if you have space your damage is doubled simple.
dps means damage per second. How much damage you can get into a timestamp between heals, guard strip or healer silence/stun. Shaman it is low. Thats what kills. Scoreboards are very bad basis for judging efficient damage. You can put 50k damage and kill no one or 7k and kill someone its all about the time it takes. If it was all about damage changing Magus would be #1 dps by a long margin so why do they mostly play havoc. dps.

Also Shaman have no damage morale but aoe t4. Thats a massive problem for finishing.
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Re: RANKED SC (Solo and 6man) experiences, opinions

Post#26 » Wed May 13, 2020 5:08 pm

Telen wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 5:05 pm
thedonkeykong332 wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 4:21 pm How can you have low dps if you top damage charts?
When I said top I meant I'm number #1 most of the times.

even if you have a spell that does 300k damage after 6 mins only, you still rock the dps chart because u dealt 300k damage in a sec brah. lets say we divide 300k / 360 = 833 dps, but i'm going out of context here since there isn't such spell in ROR.

shaman dps = sustainable damage from dots + brain busta bunch of waaagh burst with tactic = amazing damage. whether you are being super focused in a ranked match, you still deal damage, if you have space your damage is doubled simple.
dps means damage per second. How much damage you can get into a timestamp between heals, guard strip or healer silence/stun. Shaman it is low. Thats what kills. Scoreboards are very bad basis for judging efficient damage. You can put 50k damage and kill no one or 7k and kill someone its all about the time it takes. If it was all about damage changing Magus would be #1 dps by a long margin.
Still the original statement is wrong. If you deal more dmg than someone in a sc, you had a higher dps in that sc. Dps = dmg done/time. What you mean is burst...

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Re: RANKED SC (Solo and 6man) experiences, opinions

Post#27 » Wed May 13, 2020 5:09 pm

Guyz plz I made this topic to help eachother. Information and knowledge base for new player. You just show the toxic. Everybody should write
IMO: or my experiences:
No need to be toxic here screenshots are welcomed. Every opinion and thoughts welcomed but unnecessary toxic is not. If a new playa see that **** he wont want to play with us. Be gentleman be polite be kind. No need harashment here
Every opinion has value.
Everybody who wrote toxic,now write something usefull with proof screenshot this is the punishment!!!
And I don't wanna see more toxic here or will be problem!! Once a time I forgive you. But now write something usefull.

Yes yes there is a lil diff between burst dmg and damage and dps but it doesn't matter in my opinion . Good burst is good but a sustainable high dmg also welcomed. We need both of them I think.
If 2 high burst dps they have to timing perfectly if 2 huge dmg dealer they will also win but maybe lil more time needed. But it is not necessary coz if da 2 high burst cannot timing they cannot kill and have to wait again to a good time

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Re: RANKED SC (Solo and 6man) experiences, opinions

Post#28 » Wed May 13, 2020 5:18 pm

thedonkeykong332 wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 5:03 pm Amazes me how you decided to take your cluelessness so personally :D
Whats the name of your Shaman?
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Re: RANKED SC (Solo and 6man) experiences, opinions

Post#29 » Wed May 13, 2020 5:20 pm

SuperStar wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 5:09 pm Everybody should write IMO: or my experiences:
What else would we be talking about?
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Post#30 » Wed May 13, 2020 5:20 pm

OP, i think a lot of the things you write are smart and correct.

Regarding focus on ranged dps; i think it’s a good idea to focus rdps if you can ask the other dps to assist you + tank that will have Champion’s Challenge M1 slotted.. Especially against classes like sorc/bw or magus/engi.
But solo ranked is random and chaotic , so i think if you have bad coordination in the team you should try going for the mdps, as you write in the post.

You are asking for advice, and i think forums are ok-ish, ror discord is too. But could you be more specific in what you want to know? You want to know how to enchance your addons to better aid you in SoloRanked? How to act as a specific archetype or win conditions?

For example if you play zeal/rp, the win condition is to silence/stagger one or both enemy healers, when the hostile target gets focused down and/or their guard punted away. You can track things such as tank morales like champion’s challenge and demolishing strike (via Buffhead addon) to know better when the target is being focused.

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