Return of Reckoning

Nefarian78 wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 8:49 pm Depends how interested the devs

Bozzax wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 6:54 pm

TenTonHammer wrote: Tue Mar 10, 2020 10:40 pm @Op

I know probably what thread read your talking about, anyone doom saying that Mara is trash is out of their mind, Mara is still the best destro mdps viable for all content, people just keep comparing it to the overtuned or overbuffed classes on order like assault shadow warrior etc

People who want ASW or WL damage on those classes should just go play those classes then become sand when they become non relevant in seiges

Bozzax wrote: Tue Mar 10, 2020 10:00 pm
- PB tactic only affect mutated attacks not everything
- HD tactic leech on heal wont leech potions

Neither of these are “changes” they were bug fixes that maintenance mode mythic wouldn’t bother fixing on live just like the multitude of other bugs they didn’t bother fixing

Lul ofc they are changes if live is you ref point. It is ok tho you can call them gifts if you want to.

Compared to live I’d say damage is down 20-30%, burst is weaker as well as being able to reliably proc monstro in small scale/solo.

Underperformers of the past is mostly buffed as pointed out which makes live mara feel even further off in terms of relative strength.

Nefarian78 wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 8:49 pm

larsulu wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 8:45 pm It will never happens

Depends how interested the devs are in making marauder a competitive class again.

Aerogath wrote: Tue Mar 10, 2020 9:59 pm Marauder is crap for 2 years.... yeah they will buff him soon, good joke.

wargrimnir wrote: Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:25 pm Probably shouldn't hold your breath. Mara hasn't been discussed for much lately. Just the tentacle thing.

Nefarian78 wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 8:49 pm

larsulu wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 8:45 pm It will never happens

Depends how interested the devs are in making marauder a competitive class again. That's the fastest way to do so without upsetting balance too much or requiring sweeping changes to the entire class.

As of right now, marauders are dead weight in 6man. They're in the same position as ranged SW in warbands for Order.

Nefarian78 wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 8:39 pm Mara is good for draining morale in a warband but their usefulness ends there. They're incredibly bad for any form of competitive 6man.

Cutting Claw (armor debuff) is not the same value as it was in AoR, Thunderous Blow (Wounds debuff) is not the same value as it was in AoR and has 10s cd (up from 5). Piercing Bite tactic also does NOT affect it anymore and the ability was moved to 13pts.

Unfortunately, while they have great utility they completely lack the damage to exploit it and are thus replaced by having a Blackguard as one of your tanks (Same dmg and debuffs)

Making marauders a competitive class again isn't difficult.

- Thunderous Blow nerf has to be reverted completely and made usable only with Savagery to make it work with Piercing Bite.

- Tooltip damage has to be increased across the board. (Low tooltip damage was justified post LotD because of crit stacking to ridicolous amounts. None of that here)

- Mutated Aggressor cd needs to be lowered.

- Rend should either only have 1 stack and deal full damage or immune to cleanse.

With these changes i could see maras having a place in smallscale again.

wachlarz wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 3:39 pm Mara need single target stun. Thats all