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Re: Making tanks into actual dps.

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:22 am
by Mystry
I feel compelled to point out that the whole "they have heavy armor" argument is meaningless when armor talismans and pots exist. Cloth classes can get to the armor cap quite easily (which is utterly insane imo).

Re: Making tanks into actual dps.

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:24 am
by Natherul
Mind you that as stated in previous patch notes the check for what you are is not on gear anymore its on mastery points spent. Also to add that this topic is teetering on the edge of lock since its a balance proposal topic in a non balance subforum.

Re: Making tanks into actual dps.

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:50 am
by Tesq
Natherul wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:24 am Mind you that as stated in previous patch notes the check for what you are is not on gear anymore its on mastery points spent. Also to add that this topic is teetering on the edge of lock since its a balance proposal topic in a non balance subforum.

Which dont even matter because you can spec def left mastery. Aka when you gona change sc ctiterias for tank from mastery spec into str/melee crits????

Those 2 only are the relevant stats to look at not mastery spec.

Re: Making tanks into actual dps.

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:16 am
by MeanMachine7519
Dps tank is viable... get stuff , get a premade or role a dps

Re: Making tanks into actual dps.

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:22 am
by pompownik666
Mystry wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:22 am I feel compelled to point out that the whole "they have heavy armor" argument is meaningless when armor talismans and pots exist. Cloth classes can get to the armor cap quite easily (which is utterly insane imo).
They can’t

Re: Making tanks into actual dps.

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:53 am
by Tesq
pompownik666 wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:22 am
Mystry wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:22 am I feel compelled to point out that the whole "they have heavy armor" argument is meaningless when armor talismans and pots exist. Cloth classes can get to the armor cap quite easily (which is utterly insane imo).
They can’t
No one actually can..... If you know how much get stack and how wep skill work...... Tanks sit around 50%

Re: Making tanks into actual dps.

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:51 am
by BeautfulToad
Natherul wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:24 am Mind you that as stated in previous patch notes the check for what you are is not on gear anymore its on mastery points spent.
That is the only thing Id liked changed. I do think large parts of the community underrate 2handed tanks, but I just feel that nearly all 2-handed DPS metas (staying alive longer so you can do a bit more damage) is probably still a tank meta.

Also, I think most optimised 6-man groups would not trade a DPS for an off-tank, and would take 1 SnB 1 offtank over 2 SnB tanks.

Re: Making tanks into actual dps.

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:53 am
by Tesq
BeautfulToad wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:51 am
Natherul wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:24 am Mind you that as stated in previous patch notes the check for what you are is not on gear anymore its on mastery points spent.
That is the only thing Id liked changed. I do think large parts of the community underrate 2handed tanks, but I just feel that nearly all 2-handed DPS metas (staying alive longer so you can do a bit more damage) is probably still a tank meta.

Also, I think most optimised 6-man groups would not trade a DPS for an off-tank, and would take 1 SnB 1 offtank over 2 SnB tanks.
only if they de nerf the chosen/kobs putn s+b nerf;

oh right what happened to that revert? any dev planning to give dettail to make s+b ch/kobs viable again sc or kobs need to have all eggs in 1 bascket and chosen just need to be keep force into a bad build?

Re: Making tanks into actual dps.

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:08 am
by TanithScout
Why?

Re: Making tanks into actual dps.

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:23 pm
by Haskr
Natherul wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:24 am since its a balance proposal topic in a non balance subforum.
Though it has to be said that pushing proposals into and unmoderated (?) balance forum that seems to be dead (?) makes not a great difference to locking them straight away in the first place.

In this sense the sentence 'balance proposals go to the balance forum' seems to equal 'trash goes into the trash can', as both are propably never going to be looked at again (?).