ah ja musste die Taktik rein raus nehmen ^^ mein fail ;P danke für die Arbeit...Grunbag wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:35 pmJust tested on live and the bubble vfx works fine . Restart your client
Personal options vary indeedanarchypark wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:48 pm
personal opinions can be vary.
I'll play current version of RoR over any lives of AoR.
also i prefer torq style than aza.
late version of aza balance seem questionable, sm 2h kd, another stealther escape, sw thing(reverted).
and he brought back zerg morale bomb.
it's just unfinished business, thx to forum warriors witch hunting.
remember how aza was blamed for balance b4 torq?
anyway both talented devs, too bad all gone. I miss his haha no meme.
so stop spreading personal opinion on patchnote like it's something and go to balance forum.
contribute tiny bit compare to volunteering devs.
Yeah, we've tried the whole balance moderator path several times with the same results. Don't expect us to put hand on hot stove again. If something interesting or sane is worth discussing, it'll get moved. When we have crazy ideas, we'll toss them in there to bake for feedback, expecting nothing less than a full reprisal from salty warriors before and after implementation. That's what we've come to expect in every phase of forum involvement with the balance forum. No reason to expect anything different.TenTonHammer wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2019 8:46 pm The balance forums are chocked full of all manner proposals, none have moved forward or been rejected or been addressed in any real way adding my suggestions at this point will achieve nothing and Im going to wait till the forum at least has a balance moderated and they start looking at proposals again
Watch what happens when cities are released and end game gear comes from a scale where frontloaded st dps isnt effective. We arent in a live situation and balance isnt complete because of missing features. Balance isnt much different than live except for a few classes that have had a boost. WL was just as dominant in ganking/st durst in live but it wasnt a problem because everyone wanted to get to city and bomb for gear.rmpl wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2019 5:12 pmLive didn't have Torq.Telen wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2019 5:10 pm Its interesting how the difference in playerbase/playstyle has changed how balance is viewed. On live WL were pretty average and mostly seen as a gank class. Whereas Slayer was king on live. So I dont think theres really a balance problem or it would have been there on live too. Its just players playing differently.
TenTonHammer wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2019 8:46 pm
Personal options vary indeed
Yet I can indeed say that everyone prefers any version of RoR to AoR simply because stuff actually gets fixed here, thunderous blow isn’t ignoring 50% armor and hitting people for 2k and the like
Everything you stated as an example of Az balance I don’t see an issue with?
Another escape ok but their still not desired in 6 mans over other dps options, you gank 1 person still in a WB situation and your just gonna get blown up immediately afterwards and neither still have a good warband spec so it’s strong in 1v1 duos or trios but then so what? WH and We have always been so that’s nothing new
KOTBS, chosen, ib, bo, even BG all have the choice to get a KD while still going 2H why should am be any different especially now that the days of double spirit debuff are over?
Why is that an issue? Literally no one complains about Sm anymore
Zerg morale bombing never left, orvr has always been about morales, bombing and zergs and that has never changed
None of it was worse than torqs guardian white lion or the overbuffed 65ft GTDC but I’m biased because to this day I’m still bitter about 2H chosen and SnB dps bo
It wasn’t a “witch hunt”
The balance forums are chocked full of all manner proposals, none have moved forward or been rejected or been addressed in any real way adding my suggestions at this point will achieve nothing and Im going to wait till the forum at least has a balance moderated and they start looking at proposals again
Why not just entrust balance to a small group of elite players to make the final decisions, unencumbered by members of the dev team that quite frankly aren't as good at the game. (I don't mean that as an insult, but let's be honest).wargrimnir wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2019 2:16 amYeah, we've tried the whole balance moderator path several times with the same results. Don't expect us to put hand on hot stove again. If something interesting or sane is worth discussing, it'll get moved. When we have crazy ideas, we'll toss them in there to bake for feedback, expecting nothing less than a full reprisal from salty warriors before and after implementation. That's what we've come to expect in every phase of forum involvement with the balance forum. No reason to expect anything different.TenTonHammer wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2019 8:46 pm The balance forums are chocked full of all manner proposals, none have moved forward or been rejected or been addressed in any real way adding my suggestions at this point will achieve nothing and Im going to wait till the forum at least has a balance moderated and they start looking at proposals again
That might seem a bit dismissive, it is a bit dismissive, but it doesn't invalidate people that provide decent feedback, Just an acknowledgement of the sad majority of people participating there. On top of that, if you throw enough **** against the wall, something will stick, and we might find a nugget. So keep on keeping on with the proposals anyway I guess.
scatterthewinds wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:10 pm Why not just entrust balance to a small group of elite players to make the final decisions, unencumbered by members of the dev team that quite frankly aren't as good at the game. (I don't mean that as an insult, but let's be honest).
NoSkullgrin wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:57 pmscatterthewinds wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:10 pm Why not just entrust balance to a small group of elite players to make the final decisions, unencumbered by members of the dev team that quite frankly aren't as good at the game. (I don't mean that as an insult, but let's be honest).
Ooo! Ooo! Ooo! Do I qualify??? If so, massive Archmage nerfs incoming!!!
Just no. Its been shown that regardless who in in charge of the balance its biased and if we devs have to make the changes we will not make changes we see as obvious biased or otherwise bad.scatterthewinds wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:10 pmWhy not just entrust balance to a small group of elite players to make the final decisions, unencumbered by members of the dev team that quite frankly aren't as good at the game. (I don't mean that as an insult, but let's be honest).wargrimnir wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2019 2:16 amYeah, we've tried the whole balance moderator path several times with the same results. Don't expect us to put hand on hot stove again. If something interesting or sane is worth discussing, it'll get moved. When we have crazy ideas, we'll toss them in there to bake for feedback, expecting nothing less than a full reprisal from salty warriors before and after implementation. That's what we've come to expect in every phase of forum involvement with the balance forum. No reason to expect anything different.TenTonHammer wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2019 8:46 pm The balance forums are chocked full of all manner proposals, none have moved forward or been rejected or been addressed in any real way adding my suggestions at this point will achieve nothing and Im going to wait till the forum at least has a balance moderated and they start looking at proposals again
That might seem a bit dismissive, it is a bit dismissive, but it doesn't invalidate people that provide decent feedback, Just an acknowledgement of the sad majority of people participating there. On top of that, if you throw enough **** against the wall, something will stick, and we might find a nugget. So keep on keeping on with the proposals anyway I guess.