Return of Reckoning

oaliaen wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 3:15 pm theres no contrib in forts .. or you could explain how to obtain it. Cause i already tryed every thing there.

Well you may have a point, because I have seen many people decked out in Invader who would make me second guess a contribution system actually working.

peterthepan3 wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 3:29 pm Well you may have a point, because I have seen many people decked out in Invader who would make me second guess a contribution system actually working.

Everyone gets +750 contribution bonus to their roll regardless of what they did. There are plenty of instances of players joining the instance 1 minute before the fort ends and getting a bag, a while back zarbix did it on stream and got a purple for just loading in before it ends.

Individual performance inside fort is not rewarded in any way whatsoever.

Jackiee wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 3:39 pm

peterthepan3 wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 3:29 pm Well you may have a point, because I have seen many people decked out in Invader who would make me second guess a contribution system actually working.

Everyone gets +750 contribution bonus to their roll regardless of what they did. There are plenty of instances of players joining the instance 1 minute before the fort ends and getting a bag, a while back zarbix did it on stream and got a purple for just loading in before it ends.

Individual performance inside fort is not rewarded in any way whatsoever.

Thanks for clarifying that!

Nothing more fun than doing 25 forts without winning a bag while doing your best to be either top in kills or at least in top 5 list, and then reading in region "lol i was afk in jail and won gold bag".
It's pure RNG based, so with best possible luck you get 6 pieces from joining 6 forts. (jewelry has to be bought and costs 4x? something) - just for showing up.
The other route is showing up, doing something to "help" attack/defence, and walking away with the usual 4 invaders.

Anyway, regarding why people are forfeiting T4 defences - the only way to get Invader is to get campaign to a fort zone. Dragging on a defence only hurts yourself and your own gearing process. Which is kinda bad as a gameplay feature. (Wanna gear yourself? Better lose this zone and then forfeit the next one too while doing bare minimum to earn a reserved spot or spend 5-50 min clicking a portal hoping someone inside crashed or ragequit)

One idea could be to make both attacking and defending T4 zones, that is, Normal RvR, slightly contribute to gearing towards Invader.
So, what if, upon killing enemy Keep Lord, you gain 1 Invader Fragment. T4 Purple bag, 5 Invader Fragments, T4 Gold Bag, 10 Invader Fragments. Then once you have 50 Invader Fragments, you can buy 5 Invader medals. Sounds slow and painful, almost as slow and painful as the actual Fort fights. (where you get the said 4 invader medals for showing up and then if your side wins, you join a lottery if your team carried the fight and lucky 6 might win a gold)

peterthepan3 wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 3:06 pm

oaliaen wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:56 am 45 forts and 1 gold bag. Bad luck maybe?

...or perhaps you simply aren't contributing enough?

Do people seriously now expect to be handed BiS gear just because they do Forts 24/7? Is contribution/actually working towards said BiS gear no longer a concept for some?

How about 1 medal option in rr60+ gold bag. By then most folks have full vanquisher any way. 1 not 4, gold bag only.

There is currently no contribution in forts but winners have a way higher chance then loosers do in getting bags.

That said however the system is designed to have a small chance for a bag only and primary acquisition of invader is from currency. Ofc that does not mean you cant get lucky.

You shouldn't have revealed that. Now everyone will afk in 3rd floor.

Kinda too late for any changes when there is plenty of players running around in full invader already.

Sweet Sigmar's Holy Mother May I ...

All these detailed multi faceted solutions ...

How bout just this; Win or Lose when a fort siege is over, the entire pairing down to t2 stays locked for 2 or 4 or 6 hours.

I know I know ... it is really simple, and damn but it will be effective ... so obviously so easy a solution that it is no good right?

Kurama wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 6:09 pm You shouldn't have revealed that. Now everyone will afk in 3rd floor.

They weren't already?