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Re: guard +crossguarding

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 10:58 am
by hogun
hogun wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2019 8:06 am
Spoiler:
Natherul wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2019 4:22 pm ok, no attacking each other, especially in a patch note thread where discussions should be about the patch and nothing else.
It doesn't matter Luth and Bloodi must be very young and pretty damn upset with me for reasons they don't want to reveal...
Avoid mentioning other community members to taunt them or it will have logical consequences.

let's continue without considering it, take this as an additional test, which is quite surprising.

I have to understand better to draw conclusions from it but which are not obvious I think... I remind you that the BF s&b has a tactik 15% less damage.

https://youtu.be/1BV6j6Wcn88
sorry Luth and Bloodi, about your age was a mistake, but I couldn't find another good apology for you dsl

Re: guard +crossguarding

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 11:00 am
by blechkautz
If you take less than 100dmg per second (like in the video, where you get hit for like 26 dmg and your guard dmg is around 45 dmg, means you get less than 100 dmg per second even if you wouldn't avoid the dmg most of the time. Infact you get like 900 dmg over 90s --> 10dps. The other ib is probaly getting a bit more, since he has less mitigation (45 instead of 26 dmg per hit)), regenerating 15 hp/s means recoverying more than 15% of the dmg dealt so the hp reg is better than a flat reduce of 15% taken dmg. On the other hand if you take more than 100 dps than the hp reg falls of since it will allways generate 15 hp/s no matter how much dmg you take, while the 15% reduce will mitigate a percentage amount of dmg. EX: you take 600dps --> reduced 600*0,15 = 90 dps >> reg 15 hp/s.
On an average case, the two might be equal, but in the shown case (video) the incoming dps << 100dps so the regen is better.
For the test that means, if you also take the 15hp/s regen (just equip anni chest or 5pc genesis of the everlasting), the result would be: both tanks take nearly no dmg.

Re: guard +crossguarding

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 11:03 am
by Telen
Sulorie wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2019 9:21 am Nobody wants to read a chart with french skill names. Either do it in english or drop it.
I only have GCSE french and I can read it.

Re: guard +crossguarding

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 11:07 am
by OldSparky
Telen wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2019 11:03 am
Sulorie wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2019 9:21 am Nobody wants to read a chart with french skill names. Either do it in english or drop it.
I only have GCSE french and I can read it.
Yea, not everyone can read it tho

Re: guard +crossguarding

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 11:08 am
by Telen
They should remove all 2h only restrictions on abilities as going snb anywhere but zerg v zerg is very little benefit for the drawbacks.

Re: guard +crossguarding

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 11:54 am
by peterthepan3
Telen wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2019 11:08 am They should remove all 2h only restrictions on abilities as going snb anywhere but zerg v zerg is very little benefit for the drawbacks.
They should remove all SnB only restrictions on abilities as going 2h anywhere but smallscale is very little benefit for the drawbacks.

Re: guard +crossguarding

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 1:22 pm
by roadkillrobin
peterthepan3 wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2019 11:54 am
Telen wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2019 11:08 am They should remove all 2h only restrictions on abilities as going snb anywhere but zerg v zerg is very little benefit for the drawbacks.
They should remove all SnB only restrictions on abilities as going 2h anywhere but smallscale is very little benefit for the drawbacks.
Sorry, thats not true. The only time you really need a sheild is when you need to stack HTL, and thats only for really large encounters. And if you face a warband that stack mdps it's almoast pointless as parry deals with majority of guard and parry, armour and toughness will mitigrate 80% of the damage. It's just a bad investment except for PVE and very large encounters. It was once profiteble in moast case scenarios due to Block procs, but all the good ones been nerfed really hard.

Re: guard +crossguarding

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 1:35 pm
by Telen
Spoiler:
This game was going to a much better place before the 6v6 community hijacked balance.
We do not tolerate any kind of offense with false accusations against any members of the community and their beloved play styles.

Re: guard +crossguarding

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 1:40 pm
by Akilinus
Telen wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2019 1:35 pm This game was going to a much better place before the 6v6 community hijacked balance.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: guard +crossguarding

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 1:45 pm
by Feru
ohhh... did the "king" join an cool kid team??!!?