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Re: Current state of dps dok?

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:41 am
by Panodil
Unstoppable1776 wrote: Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:08 am No one shall speak for a King!

ATM Dps Dok are in a good balance spot. I have no complaints since the recent change of gear.

That is all. This thread may be closed now since i have spoken.

-ICONIC
Have to agree with this statement.

Re: Current state of dps dok?

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:13 am
by xarax
Panodil wrote: Tue Mar 19, 2019 5:42 am 4 Beastlord+2 Sentinel+2 Opressor + 2 Dominator always a fun combo to run :D:D
What else are worth it?
4 BL 2 Sent 2 Opr 2 Dom for max Str
3 BL 5 Sent 2 Opr?
3 BL 3 Sent 4 Opr?
3 BL 2 Sent 5 Opr?

Re: Current state of dps dok?

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:18 am
by Rockalypse
xarax wrote: Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:13 am
Panodil wrote: Tue Mar 19, 2019 5:42 am 4 Beastlord+2 Sentinel+2 Opressor + 2 Dominator always a fun combo to run :D:D
What else are worth it?
4 BL 2 Sent 2 Opr 2 Dom for max Str
3 BL 5 Sent 2 Opr?
3 BL 3 Sent 4 Opr?
3 BL 2 Sent 5 Opr?
4 BL 3 Sent 3 Opr

Re: Current state of dps dok?

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:05 pm
by Rydiak
Unstoppable1776 wrote: Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:08 am No one shall speak for a King!

ATM Dps Dok are in a good balance spot. I have no complaints since the recent change of gear.

That is all. This thread may be closed now since i have spoken.

-ICONIC
Top DoK has spoken the truth! Strong but not OP.

Re: Current state of dps dok?

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 11:14 pm
by xoonerfree
Sulorie wrote: Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:40 am
xoonerfree wrote: Tue Mar 19, 2019 4:45 am
Using transfer essence to heal and attack freed you from worrying about selecting a defensive target to heal. Without transfer essence in dual wield it's annoying having to keep reelecting a new defensive target to heal or if you're old defense target got deselected, it's annoying micro management.
But exactly this target management separates a good from a bad dps healer.
It wasn't required before and now it's required and only to heal ONE TARGET, not the entire group. It's not a fun activity, it's housekeeping for less effect.

Evidence: almost no dps doks in scenarios, before nerf lots. facts.

Re: Current state of dps dok?

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 12:22 am
by peterthepan3
The class is absolutely fine, and having to micromanage has always been a core part of lifetapping with DoK; veterans/people familiar with DPS DOK would know this.

For what its worth: I saw a load of DPS DOKs in SC these past 2 days (including my own).

Re: Current state of dps dok?

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 6:04 am
by Sulorie
You had to swap targets a lot to heal multiple people with the melee heal channel in the old days, when good people changed targets between ticks. You decided to be dps spec, so your melee healing will be limited.

Re: Current state of dps dok?

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:34 am
by xarax
peterthepan3 wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2019 12:22 am For what its worth: I saw a load of DPS DOKs in SC these past 2 days (including my own).
But not good ones ;) they where mostly lvling

And since Destro is lacking Healers in SC/WBs they were always blamed for going dps because people think they lose a heal instead. If you join as melee dd like marauder noone is complaining, even if the marauder is in green stuff and the dok has BiS.

Re: Current state of dps dok?

Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 11:29 am
by Ototo
Sulorie wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2019 6:04 am You had to swap targets a lot to heal multiple people with the melee heal channel in the old days, when good people changed targets between ticks. You decided to be dps spec, so your melee healing will be limited.
I was there in live, and was hard to do but we did it. I'm surprised that an skill that is so obvious for single target, was allowed here for group healing. Having the advantage in speed vs its mirror (DoK use 1h swords, which are faster than a 2h hammer), it literally made the class the most cost/effective one of the entire game. Pop 2 DoKs vs 2 WPs and see them killing the priests without breaking a sweat.

Just my 2cents.

Re: Current state of dps dok?

Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 1:27 pm
by Zxul
Still possible to play, and for that matter still at least one spec possible with good dps + as much healing as the old cookie cutter spec (don't tell Peter that Transfer Essence nerf failed).

Though after playing dps chosen, the squishiness is annoying.