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Re: Order never wins t4 scenarios
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:22 pm
by Panodil
Teklis wrote: Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:17 pm
Panodil wrote: Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:09 pm
One good player can make huge difference in pug sc, if you lucky there is two in a pug sc and you get win.
If you duo pug sc you will go from 50% winrate to 90%
Do you imply that destruction is good and order is bad? If order always loses, this must mean they have no good players at all
Who wins mostly depend on rvr. If order winning rvr, destro win pug sc. Been like that for long time.
Reason you feel like order suck can be other way around, order have such good premade so those destro that want wins q pug sc and all the good order are in premade.
Re: Order never wins t4 scenarios
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:29 pm
by Sulorie
wargrimnir wrote: Sat Feb 09, 2019 2:41 pm
This isn't even a popcorn thread, it's just dumb.
After 3 pages I can say, I was right.
But the 2nd part of your comment is true too.
Re: Order never wins t4 scenarios
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:50 pm
by Teklis
Broken destruction classes might contribute to this situation as well
Re: Order never wins t4 scenarios
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:54 pm
by rmpl
Teklis wrote: Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:50 pm
Broken destruction classes might contribute to this situation as well
Which classes are broken?
Re: Order never wins t4 scenarios
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:56 pm
by Teklis
Tell me, how exactly this is not broken?
Re: Order never wins t4 scenarios
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:57 pm
by Fiskrens
I only play solo and I can say that the main reasons that destro wins pug scenarios so often is because
1) they almost always have the better setup, pretty much always 3-4 tanks and 2-4 healers. For order it's quite rare to even have tanks and healers in the same pug scen. They probably have a better class distribution than order does.
2) They seem to duo queue more often, a good Mdps with a guardbot can be very scary in a pug scen, magus/sorc with pockethealer is no joke either for stomping pugs.
3) I honestly believe that destro players doing pug scen are generally better players than the order people doing pug scen. Atleast right now.
Right now Nordenwatch is the pug scen and destro almost always runs for fortress while order is often times very slow to even get out of spawn. Once destro takes fortress it's really hard to push in and take it.
It's also worth noting that these things swing back and forth, in a month from now it could swing back in order's favor. People really need to calm down about these things.
Re: Order never wins t4 scenarios
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:58 pm
by peterthepan3
The Shaman was a better player than the other DPS in the scenario. Plus he spammed his dots a lot, and his heal debuff contributed a lot to that overall damage.
Re: Order never wins t4 scenarios
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:59 pm
by Flavorburst
How does that saying go?
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Re: Order never wins t4 scenarios
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:59 pm
by GodlessCrom
To be fair to Belladonna, he makes the same "ICONIC IZ DA BESSST" comment in every thread.
Also here is how that screenshot happened: order has no tanks and one healer. Let me guess: you play a ranged dps?
Re: Order never wins t4 scenarios
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:00 pm
by Dammy095
Fiskrens wrote: Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:57 pm
I only play solo and I can say that the main reasons that destro wins pug scenarios so often is because
1) they almost always have the better setup, pretty much always 3-4 tanks and 2-4 healers. For order it's quite rare to even have tanks and healers in the same pug scen. They probably have a better class distribution than order does.
2) They seem to duo queue more often, a good Mdps with a guardbot can be very scary in a pug scen, magus/sorc with pockethealer is no joke either for stomping pugs.
3) I honestly believe that destro players doing pug scen are generally better players than the order people doing pug scen. Atleast right now.
Right now Nordenwatch is the pug scen and destro almost always runs for fortress while order is often times very slow to even get out of spawn. Once destro takes fortress it's really hard to push in and take it.
It's also worth noting that these things swing back and forth, in a month from now it could swing back in order's favor. People really need to calm down about these things.
ive been playing for destro for 6 months, now i main order for 3 months, this guy/girl is correct
main reason order loses many scs is becasue they are slow/coward, but once good order players log in its another story