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Re: [Shaman] What the edge over AM now?

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 8:18 am
by Telen
Maybe in keeps the aoe is better but 99% of the time you want the reduced channel. Getting your burst within the 3gcd of your silence is what am dps is now all about. That leaves you without a slot for arcing outside of a full lifetap build with no burst. If I was to take the aoe id take dispel for the bless sever anyway.
I personally believe if you cant burst something down you might aswell not be a dps. If you are putting out a little extra healing in return for losing burst you may aswell slap on heal gear and let the real dps handle it.
Like I said earlier in the thread, Shaman need access to a reduced channel, as its really what changes things for dpsam.

Re: [Shaman] What the edge over AM now?

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 5:08 pm
by defleshed
Telen wrote: Mon Sep 03, 2018 9:42 pm I think Shaman really needs access to the 3s Bunch of Waaagh tactic that AM gets.
Your wish is granted.

Re: [Shaman] What the edge over AM now?

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 5:10 pm
by Aerogath
So shammy is op now too, how does it fell ?;P

Re: [Shaman] What the edge over AM now?

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 5:16 pm
by defleshed
Aerogath wrote: Tue Sep 18, 2018 5:10 pm So shammy is op now too, how does it fell ?;P
feels like it needs a nurf.

Re: [Shaman] What the edge over AM now?

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 5:28 pm
by Foomy44
defleshed wrote: Tue Sep 18, 2018 5:16 pm
Aerogath wrote: Tue Sep 18, 2018 5:10 pm So shammy is op now too, how does it fell ?;P
feels like it needs a nurf.
My thoughts exactly.

Re: [Shaman] What the edge over AM now?

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 5:32 pm
by peterthepan3
defleshed wrote: Tue Sep 18, 2018 5:16 pm
Aerogath wrote: Tue Sep 18, 2018 5:10 pm So shammy is op now too, how does it fell ?;P
feels like it needs a nurf.
If this is the case, then please prepare some feedback and write it in the designated feedback thread titled '
[Implementation Feedback] Patch Sept 18 2018'.

Re: [Shaman] What the edge over AM now?

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 5:34 pm
by defleshed
peterthepan3 wrote: Tue Sep 18, 2018 5:32 pm
defleshed wrote: Tue Sep 18, 2018 5:16 pm
Aerogath wrote: Tue Sep 18, 2018 5:10 pm So shammy is op now too, how does it fell ?;P
feels like it needs a nurf.
If this is the case, then please prepare some feedback and write it in the designated feedback thread.
I was just joking, i didnt get a chance to try it out today.

Re: [Shaman] What the edge over AM now?

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 5:35 pm
by charlysixb
Yes nerf it and then ask for buffs because class feels underpowered to others. I'm gettin' dizzy xD

Re: [Shaman] What the edge over AM now?

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 5:38 pm
by Foomy44
defleshed wrote: Tue Sep 18, 2018 5:34 pm
peterthepan3 wrote: Tue Sep 18, 2018 5:32 pm
defleshed wrote: Tue Sep 18, 2018 5:16 pm

feels like it needs a nurf.
If this is the case, then please prepare some feedback and write it in the designated feedback thread.
I was just joking haha.
Whelp I wasn't, this burst feels ridiculous to me. I have hit SnB tanks for 1k+ with the channel, healers for 1400 (with ele debuff + toughness debuff up). Not too many targets are surviving that ticking every second with all my dots running on em + another nuke timed with the channel, think I've killed more healers today than in the last month. Feels a bit OP on a class that can also throw out decent aoe, decent heals, and can kite good. If this is the kind of burst they want a hybrid DPS to have I think something else needs to get toned down. But hey if AM is balanced then we good too I suppose.

Re: [Shaman] What the edge over AM now?

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 5:40 pm
by Aerogath
Foomy44 wrote: Tue Sep 18, 2018 5:38 pm
defleshed wrote: Tue Sep 18, 2018 5:34 pm
peterthepan3 wrote: Tue Sep 18, 2018 5:32 pm

If this is the case, then please prepare some feedback and write it in the designated feedback thread.
I was just joking haha.
Whelp I wasn't, this burst feels ridiculous to me. I have hit SnB tanks for 1k+ with the channel, healers for 1400 (with ele debuff + toughness debuff up). Not too many targets are surviving that with all my dots running on em, think I've killed more healers today than in the last month. Feels a bit OP on a class that can also throw out decent aoe, decent heals, and can kite good. If this is the kind of burst they want a hybrid DPS to have I think something else needs to get toned down.
Pssht or shammy gets nerfed and AM will be still overpowered :D i`ve got bursted down by an Am in 3 seconds the time normally a dps caster needs to bring his first cast ;D