[Request] Give us T1 | T2/3 | T4 Pretty Please

[peterthepan3]

Whats the harm in allowing level 16+ to choose to play in T4 or at least T2? Your friends could jump straight to T4 if they want.

I realize most of the people if not all of the people who are saying nay are 40+. What about the people who arent. Lets hear some opinions from people who are not level 40+.

Because being 40 excludes one from making alts that, consequently, inspires relevant feedback?

[Yaliskah]

Whats the harm in allowing level 16+ to choose to play in T4 or at least T2? Your friends could jump straight to T4 if they want.

I realize most of the people if not all of the people who are saying nay are 40+. What about the people who arent. Lets hear some opinions from people who are not level 40+.

Believe it or not, 16-30 bolster (->48) is impressive. And i create new characters monthly. My last SW is 32.

[foghladha]

I get what you guys are saying. But I still feel there should be something siege related before they get lumped into T4 and face off with people who have played for years.

What about making T1 include the T2 maps and allow people to go up to level 19 before being forced into T4. This would at least let them know how a ram works, how the siege mechanic works and give some degree of how the T4 mechanic works before they're tossed in the fire.

I'm just looking to build a bridge to help people not be so overwhelmed by T4 and continue to play the game past t1. It's disheartening to watch T1 player after T1 player either leave the game or decide to just stay in T1 because they're tired of being farmed.

In regards to Twinks. NO PLEASE. There is no room for Twinks in MMO's. It's a guaranteed way to kill pvp enjoyment in your game. The ONLY person who loves that idea is a Twink.

[Aurandilaz]

I get what OP is saying, but alas, it was tried and the game simply does not have the population necessary to maintain a seperate t2/t3 except for maybe 2-4 during Eu evenings, what about players playing in other timeslots? Ghosttown, tumbleweed rolling by, begging in /t2 and /t3 to see if anyone else is online or if you can assemble 3-6 people to take an undefended keep?
If the population rises to well above 1k and never dips below 500-800, then maybe a seperate midtier could be justified. But with current numbers, it would just hurt whatever players are left grinding their way up to 40.
T4 with 12 extra zones from T2/T3 maps also makes game less self-repeating, instead of usual 9 T4 zones, now you have rotation of 19 zones for slaying enemies.
Why lock almost half of games RvR maps into a ghosttown that would be barely used by a minority of playerbase who are just "passing through"?

[aKe]

The worst part for new players is the big wall u get when ur lvl 16.
as a melee its hard to compete in rvr.
as a healer/range it can be okay.

Its hard to catch up to lvl 31 at least.
Theres days, where i dont get any sc pop for 1 or 2 hours.
Thatswhy my friends left the game, now we are just a duo trying to get to the next tier, unfortunately we are 4 lvls away from each other and he needs to come closer.

I see that as a big problem, as of my mates, they told me that they dont care to get pwned, they know they are low and the gap is big. But to grind your way through and not being able to do even scenarios to catch some progress, because they are barely some, made them feel sad.


U had some nice things like the quest u could get in IC/AD to push some xp, not anymore.
And after the nice XP Buff it feels horrible to see the exp bar going slowly and slowly.


Would be nice having a quest chain for this tier, maybe aswell with siege included, so you could evade the hard levels. As a reward for the "tutorial" the exp and maybe drops you get should get the people to do the quest.

[anarchypark]

It was empty zone. literally empty.
for years.
until some leader spam /5 for hours at weekend.
if you gather wb it's PvD after few wipes of small enemy grp. often PvD from start to end for 3zones.

most ppl grind PvE at that time.
and will be same if t2 became empty again.

get the gears of your lvl.
you can kill 40. just not by solo.
you have choice, PvE or PvP.
back then it was almost solo PvE.

[Spacecraft]

How about some more tweeks to the bolster to make low levels feel the same with 40rr plus just a bit of a boost i never met a low level i could not kill unless it was a healer.

[navis]

Thinking about this situation and the future to release forts and cities. Maybe just a means to trim both ends so there more of an overlap of players. Place to keep low + mid T4 together in some areas, and mid+high level players in other areas.

- Level 17 going to T4 is a stretch but them able to go all way to fortress would be laughable. There is still going to be a zone open in T2-T4 for them somewhere.
- some high-level players might not get to go back to T2 (eg rr75+) and if there is no open zones in T3 or above they just have to get on to alts.

It would be nice to think of going back to old system but only if RvR becomes much more popular in numbers. Recently I think it has picked up a bit, for sure will pick up more once more dungeons are finished.

- old bolster system was really good IMO.

[mogt]

why the people cry? the bolstersystem is strong enough, if you know how you use your charackter, a kvk can kill a a lvl 40 and rr50+, but if a small group from lvl 16, see 3 group lvl 30-40m then the small group killed by the 3 groups, that is the game, kill or die. but it is easy to cry, the system are be bad. as using the head

[MedV]

I agree with OP. Everyone here is talking about being the same lvl and having the same stats make it doable.. Does it? ... Yes....

But thats not what OP is arguing. He wants new players to learn the system. A new lvl 16 first time player no matter his stats will get dominated. He doesnt learn by following the zerg just become a lvl 40 with no clue how to play.

My best friend downloaded the game... we ran around t1 having some fun while he learned how to play a bit. Once we hit t4 he got absolutely destroyed. We waited for scs to pop with none...all the mid tiers are in wbs or pve. He didnt have the skill level to compete and he needed somewhere to learn.

I told him he shld either pve to 40 or follow the zerg. He thought the game was fun but grinding with 0 fun for the rest of it was not worth it ... he quit the next day.

the problem is new players dont know what "fun" is until they are end game content. The question is do they stick out a boring grind to maybe enjoy the game? if even half of the new players say no... you are losing a massive amount of player base.

Why not make just t2 lvls 16-25..... only use the t2 zones... they are too small for t4 players anyway. Have it so the keep takes have something to do with t4 supplies. Maybe only open the zone on the weekends with double exp during rvr in t2. Players will come, zones will be populated and the 16-25s arent really wanted in t4 anyway and honestly prob make a small proportion.