Liniments

[Avici]

To get must have pvp stuff you have to farm pve over and over, and there's no other way to obtain it. Is it really a good idea?

[Aurandilaz]

It's not must have stuff. It gives nice benefits for 30 mins, at high cost. Extra 5% crit isnt going to decide every fight, it gives minor edge but won't be the sole reason why one fight goes one or other way.
And considering you need 1-3+ hours of Gunbad to get some Linis, the cost remains high so they won't be widely used for a long time, not to mention time cost or money cost compared to normal potions which are still just fine.

Like compare having 60 str 60 wounds for 30 mins versus 100 Str for 60 mins. Okay wounds is nice, but so is having 100 Str. The other requires long PVE session with full party, the other requires you to craft a few mins and getting lucky crit on pot making.

It will be nice to be equipped with linis, but current cost is very high since you need to finish PQs and get bags to get a random chance at gaining some. Maybe once enough people start grinding Gunbad for real the cost will come down, but they are pretty damn expensive now for general widespread pvp use.

[Avici]

It's not must have stuff. It gives nice benefits for 30 mins, at high cost. Extra 5% crit isnt going to decide every fight, it gives minor edge but won't be the sole reason why one fight goes one or other way.
And considering you need 1-3+ hours of Gunbad to get some Linis, the cost remains high so they won't be widely used for a long time, not to mention time cost or money cost compared to normal potions which are still just fine.

Like compare having 60 str 60 wounds for 30 mins versus 100 Str for 60 mins. Okay wounds is nice, but so is having 100 Str. The other requires long PVE session with full party, the other requires you to craft a few mins and getting lucky crit on pot making.

It will be nice to be equipped with linis, but current cost is very high since you need to finish PQs and get bags to get a random chance at gaining some. Maybe once enough people start grinding Gunbad for real the cost will come down, but they are pretty damn expensive now for general widespread pvp use.

I'd say 5% less crit chance on self is pretty must have.

[Kragg]

What exactly are these? I don't recall anything of em.

[qwerty113]

Linies could be crafted or only Gunbad ?

[Fallenkezef]

What exactly are these? I don't recall anything of em.

High end hybrid pots. Had a hard stat buff + another buff such as 60BS+5% crit chance.

Live had more end game pve and the mats dropped off pq and dungeon heroes

[Kragg]

What exactly are these? I don't recall anything of em.

High end hybrid pots. Had a hard stat buff + another buff such as 60BS+5% crit chance.

Live had more end game pve and the mats dropped off pq and dungeon heroes

+5% crit is super sexy! I could, once the items i need start dropping, could get 50% crit up

[Fallenkezef]

What exactly are these? I don't recall anything of em.

High end hybrid pots. Had a hard stat buff + another buff such as 60BS+5% crit chance.

Live had more end game pve and the mats dropped off pq and dungeon heroes

+5% crit is super sexy! I could, once the items i need start dropping, could get 50% crit up

Towards the end, live started to get real stupid. You'd walk into T4 and people with end game gear and rank would literaly oneshot you

[Kragg]

High end hybrid pots. Had a hard stat buff + another buff such as 60BS+5% crit chance.

Live had more end game pve and the mats dropped off pq and dungeon heroes

+5% crit is super sexy! I could, once the items i need start dropping, could get 50% crit up

Towards the end, live started to get real stupid. You'd walk into T4 and people with end game gear and rank would literaly oneshot you

Aye, some people in this community have very pink googles on when they talk about live.

[NoRKaLKiLLa]

A run through a single wing of gunbad should take about an hour, if you opt out of gold bags it'll net you 12 liniments, plus a chance at a "jet" jewelry piece, a subjugator weapon appearance if you don't already have the specific one you want and a ton of level 40 champs to collect crafting materials from.