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Re: WE's: Post/Discuss your current spec/build

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:00 am
by chakzo
So any tips/bulds against guardian WL around ?

when i was talking riposte i meant normal tanks/dps :D

trying stagger player -> kill pet asap -> hope for the elf dont kite much

Re: WE's: Post/Discuss your current spec/build

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:14 am
by Aurandilaz
chakzo wrote:So any tips/bulds against guardian WL around ?

when i was talking riposte i meant normal tanks/dps :D

trying stagger player -> kill pet asap -> hope for the elf dont kite much
I throw my hands in the air and bow before the superior class design that of a pokemon master. :D
You could probably win 1v1 against the pet, or again the player, but when they come both at you, there is abysmal chance of surviving the first KD and insane burst.
I remember some extremely lucky victories where I somehow manage to kill the player before the pet tears my healthbar to zero.
Even if you survive initial first seconds, and manage to pot and detaunt, focusing the pet allows the player to kill you, but your only chance is at killing the player before the pet finishes the masters job.

Re: WE's: Post/Discuss your current spec/build

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:16 am
by Nidwin
chakzo wrote:So any tips/bulds against guardian WL around ?

when i was talking riposte i meant normal tanks/dps :D

trying stagger player -> kill pet asap -> hope for the elf dont kite much
I don't know.
Restoration pot, focus on the toon and not the cat, and don't use your KD before the toon is half life. Against a WL it's who jumps on who case me thinks.

Re: WE's: Post/Discuss your current spec/build

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 11:01 am
by Atropik
chakzo wrote:So any tips/bulds against guardian WL around ?
Leonine Frenzy is a blessing, so make sure of taking it away, that simple move reduses pet dmg by half.

Brutal pounce is a delayed pet command, and yd better stay away whenever you see it being buffed, that way wl will have to spend 1.14 - 1.4 second more on getting you down.

After rd being removed, wl leaves we zero chances in 1/1 combat, im talking about conq geared not brainless quardian specced wl with pots, he can liretaly toy with we. Nevertheless, we can escape anytime before she wasted her cd's away.

Re: WE's: Post/Discuss your current spec/build

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 12:44 pm
by rngvp
I'm curious.. why WE are not running hd? It's an obvious choice with WB but with sac stab no one seems to use it. Is there another class that has a better option or is PA too good to not use?

Separate question.. Do Masterful treachery, ToB, and flanking all stack? and if so would it be worth it to replace IP or BF with one of those?

Re: WE's: Post/Discuss your current spec/build

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 12:54 pm
by Miszczu5647
rngvp wrote:I'm curious.. why WE are not running hd? It's an obvious choice with WB but with sac stab no one seems to use it. Is there another class that has a better option or is PA too good to not use?
Miszczu5647 wrote:http://www.ror.builders/career/witch-el ... ,5606,5612

Not a spec I want to but I am testing sacrificial stab (snare is great) and buffed Kiss of Doom (rather medicor still).
"No one" is a little overextended ;)

Re: WE's: Post/Discuss your current spec/build

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 1:06 pm
by SilverWF
rngvp wrote:I'm curious.. why WE are not running hd? It's an obvious choice with WB but with sac stab no one seems to use it. Is there another class that has a better option or is PA too good to not use?

Separate question.. Do Masterful treachery, ToB, and flanking all stack? and if so would it be worth it to replace IP or BF with one of those?
You don't really need it for solo or pug. There is only few cases where you would need it and that cases are easily avoidable.

What does mean "stack"? They adds to each other, so +15% and +15% would give you +30%
But going full glass cannon is pretty risky, you know...

Miszczu5647, you broke the forum! :lol:

Re: WE's: Post/Discuss your current spec/build

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 1:20 pm
by Miszczu5647
SilverWF wrote:Miszczu5647, you broke the forum! :lol:
What do you mean? GM do precisely what he means too... sometimes... or not... that depends.. :D

Do not answer. This is WE topic after all.

Re: WE's: Post/Discuss your current spec/build

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 1:39 pm
by rngvp
Miszczu5647 wrote:
rngvp wrote:I'm curious.. why WE are not running hd? It's an obvious choice with WB but with sac stab no one seems to use it. Is there another class that has a better option or is PA too good to not use?
Miszczu5647 wrote:http://www.ror.builders/career/witch-el ... ,5606,5612

Not a spec I want to but I am testing sacrificial stab (snare is great) and buffed Kiss of Doom (rather medicor still).
"No one" is a little overextended ;)
Apologies, I just meant in the context of this forum post.. I haven't seen anyone link a build that used it.

Re: WE's: Post/Discuss your current spec/build

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 1:42 pm
by rngvp
SilverWF wrote:
rngvp wrote:I'm curious.. why WE are not running hd? It's an obvious choice with WB but with sac stab no one seems to use it. Is there another class that has a better option or is PA too good to not use?

Separate question.. Do Masterful treachery, ToB, and flanking all stack? and if so would it be worth it to replace IP or BF with one of those?
You don't really need it for solo or pug. There is only few cases where you would need it and that cases are easily avoidable.

What does mean "stack"? They adds to each other, so +15% and +15% would give you +30%
But going full glass cannon is pretty risky, you know...

Miszczu5647, you broke the forum! :lol:
15%+15%+15% = 45% if they all stack. Do you think 1 15% tactic is better than Brute Force or Increased Pain?

WE is always glass cannon methinks :lol: