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Re: Faction Neutral Race

Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 8:02 pm
by Penril
I thought TK would never ally with VC. Aren't they like mortal enemies?

Re: Faction Neutral Race

Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 8:07 pm
by ToXoS
roadkillrobin wrote:Necromancer is res bot ofc :P
Undead doesn't heals. And Vampire self heal ofc :P
A necromancer can use a spell to heal the undead. To re-infuse some more necromancy (wind of Shyish + Dhar) into the corpses to be more precise.

But yeah, besides greater undead like Vampires and Liches, undead cannot heal themselves.

Re: Faction Neutral Race

Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 8:10 pm
by Penril
Eh, pretty sure they heal themselves just fine in Total War: Warhammer.

Re: Faction Neutral Race

Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 8:15 pm
by wargrimnir
Penril wrote:I thought TK would never ally with VC. Aren't they like mortal enemies?
Yes, mostly because Nagash controlled the entire race for quite a long time and used them as meatshield for his own troops. Not much different from how the Dark Elves are manipulating the Greenskins currently.

Re: Faction Neutral Race

Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 8:17 pm
by wargrimnir
Torquemadra wrote:
wargrimnir wrote:Dunno man, Dark elves deal in a lot of blood magic, they'd be bros with teh vamps for sure.
yeah but, screw skaven
Ogres are fun too, they're in better proximity for Chaos to ally up. They'd get along in a scrap with Greenskins just fine too.

Re: Faction Neutral Race

Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 8:29 pm
by CzarRedwall
implement ogres how wow implemented pandaren

Re: Faction Neutral Race

Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 8:34 pm
by ToXoS
wargrimnir wrote:Dark Elves could join TK and Vamps, Skaven filling the slot in Destruction.

DE is pretty disgusted with Greenskins to begin with, and the Chaos armies aren't really their favorite flavor of magic either. They taught Nagash everything he knew which prompted the Tomb King armies to form in the first place. Sylvania served Nagash for a long time as well, pretty sure it's close to the current age, though I'm not 100% on the timelines.
3 Druchii sorcerers (2 females and 1 male) taught Nagash the basics of Dark magic, that is all.
A long time after that, Nagash created "proper" necromancy by mixing Dhar with Shyish.
The dark elves didn't know that necromancy was even possible at that time.

A tribe of corrupted humans which was living close to a mountain filled with warpstone (the future Nagashizarr) was able to control the dead with the power of warpstone. Nothing fancy tho, just make them walk for a few meters. That's the only form of necromancy that existed alongside Nagash's one. This necromancy was nothing like what Nagash was able to do, even at the beginning of his "proper" necromancy.

Re: Faction Neutral Race

Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 8:47 pm
by Jaycub
Torquemadra wrote:
RedKnox wrote:
Torquemadra wrote:I want a undead 3rd faction.....
I approve. Vampire Courts, Tomb Kings, and... erhm... erhm... Skaven?
Vampire mdps, Wight Tanks, Necromancer healer, Wraith rdps could do it initially.
How much stuff do you guys have to play with from the unreleased expack? I remember the skins for the Halloween event and the concept art but haven't seen anything else.

Re: Faction Neutral Race

Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:28 am
by RedKnox
roadkillrobin wrote:Remember some 40k MMO had an intreasting idea were 3d faction would be NPC, PVE Tyranids that would swarm areas that were heavy populated if one side were dominating in numbers to help equalize.
This actually sounds like a good idea, I would put Skaven in this role. I am sure the scripting part of this would be a nightmare to do correctly. But it would be ideal.

Re: Faction Neutral Race

Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:54 am
by zaauk
Torquemadra wrote:I want a undead 3rd faction.....
Hell yeah