Return of Reckoning

xanderous wrote:Could you please take look at shamans damage output, its getting quite ridiculous, every character i have ran in these tiers gets absolutely destroyed by this class

Have you tried a WL?

So to address a couple of similar comments that have been made here......

As i stated in my original post I'm not trying to 1v1 dps shamans, once they get their rotation on you there is no escape, even with cleanse, its just a small set back as any curses can just be reapplied.

I'm not suggestion that shamans should be nerfed i am suggestion that their damage output at lower levels should be scaled down as i think in T3 its way too strong, this would have no effect on their output for T4.

They actually outshining BW's in T3 because all they need to do is apply a few dots and then kite making use of run away tactic + heal, BW really needs a group to survive the dots.

Thats again big bullshit! If a shammy outshines a bw in grp play in t3 the bw is stupid like hell.
The Simply dots can be cleansed by one klick!!!!

Any Argument without 6 vs 6 or / and higher is Just Vibrations in the air an nonsense

Daknallbomb wrote:Thats again big bullshit! If a shammy outshines a bw in grp play in t3 the bw is stupid like hell.
The Simply dots can be cleansed by one klick!!!!

Could you please read what i wrote, i said BW needs a group to survive the dots.

Any Argument without 6 vs 6 or / and higher is Just Vibrations in the air an nonsense

So in other words, completely disregard the point of the thread.

th3gatekeeper wrote:

xanderous wrote:Could you please take look at shamans damage output, its getting quite ridiculous, every character i have ran in these tiers gets absolutely destroyed by this class

Have you tried a WL?

Yes, i have only ever managed to kill full healing spec shamans in T3 with him, there was that one time i killed a dps shaman but only because i surprised him, when he saw me coming the next time, i got in one hit before i dropped like a stone

xanderous wrote:

Daknallbomb wrote:Thats again big bullshit! If a shammy outshines a bw in grp play in t3 the bw is stupid like hell.
The Simply dots can be cleansed by one klick!!!!

Could you please read what i wrote, i said BW needs a group to survive the dots.

Any Argument without 6 vs 6 or / and higher is Just Vibrations in the air an nonsense

So in other words, completely disregard the point of the thread.

Jep As a bw should be! Nobody cares about no grp play. And a shammy Cant bring someone down When He s under heal.

The main reason for this thread might be the inability of a vast majority of midtier players to build groups.

ofc that dps healer will be strong in 1v1, becouse it have ... dps and heal.
but in party, they are crap, you can always wanna bring better dps

its normal then you cant kill as 1 dps 1 healer (if healer can use detaunt)

In t4 shammies aren't so op as you describe them, especially in group play. Also you're talking about a 1v1 situation, in t3, against a double potted shammy. balancing classes in lower tiers is not worth the effort and also difficult to do without damaging the class in the main tier.

Sulorie wrote:The main reason for this thread might be the inability of a vast majority of midtier players to build groups.

^ T1 syndrome - might aswell play gw2 where they deal in snowflakes and swiss knives.

Can we please let these threads just die from the get go? That'd be great, thank you.